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sentinel Posted: 27.08.2008, 10:41



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Now whose nit-picking!
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Hunlef Posted: 27.08.2008, 10:47

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OK, Irishjack, in your view it's perfectly acceptable for one who is solely concerned for the correct application of the law and who stands to gain nothing personally from the process, to be termed 'obsessive and consumed'?

Indeed, you appear to heartily endorse all that is wrong with the Brit media and press!
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IrishJack Posted: 27.08.2008, 11:02

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HunlefOK, Irishjack, in your view it's perfectly acceptable for one who is solely concerned for the correct application of the law and who stands to gain nothing personally from the process, to be termed 'obsessive and consumed'?

Indeed, you appear to heartily endorse all that is wrong with the Brit media and press!


Yes, if they are, which in this case JA is, but you are interpreting this as meaning a bad thing, other readers who are not searching for the slightest slur might see it that way.

The problems with the british press are the same as those world wide, excepting that there is less restriction on reporting in the UK and that there is little state interference. New organisation report news and in a manner that will attract and retain customers and reflect their owners views, twas ever thus. The Telegraph, Guradian, Sun and Star, etc, etc, exist because of customer demand for a particular, otherwise there would just be a daily fact sheet (controlled by the government?).
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Hunlef Posted: 27.08.2008, 11:18

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IrishJackThe problems with the british press are the same as those world wide, excepting that there is less restriction on reporting in the UK and that there is little state interference.

And where did you get this from? Ahh, yes, the British press itself! And you have the neck to accuse others of naivity!
QuoteThe Telegraph, Guradian, Sun and Star, etc, etc, exist because of customer demand for a particular, otherwise there would just be a daily fact sheet (controlled by the government?).

From this pearl of wisdom, I now can see why, when Prince Wills went to South America recently, every British broadsheet and every British tabloid carried a cringingly sycophantic, identical front page story about 'Wills' being an ordinary bloke who had to clean his own toilet out in the camp in which he was staying. Only the Guardian chose to carry a very similar story on page 2. The story was headlined repeatedly on every conventional UK TV station.

Thanks to Irishjack, I now realise that this was because of the overwhelming public demand for coverage of Krap like this!! Thank God we have intelligent people like irishJack fighting for Cornwall to keep us on the straight and narrow!





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IrishJack Posted: 27.08.2008, 11:34

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HunlefThanks to Irishjack, I now realise that this was because of the overwhelming public demand for coverage of Krap like this!!


Good, perhaps you will accept that you live in a free market where the market provides what the people want, celebrity focussed sh1te, and that cornish issues (like issues for the rest of the UK excepting SE, NW, W Midlands and lowland Scotland) are of no interest to the majority of consumers who buy these media products.

The lack of interest is not a conspiracy but simply lack of interest. Perhaps the cornish movement should ask what they can do to generate media interest. The dark business of PR and marketing (as not practiced by MK for example).




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Tiocfaidh ar La,
But I'm starting to think that it won't for us cornish, no unity, no leadership, but lots of factions and backbiting

The Bureaucracy needs to expand to meet the needs of the Bureaucracy

http://www.ross...ollkelly.ie/
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marhak Posted: 27.08.2008, 11:54

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"The Cornishman" has never featured Cornish. When I wanted to place an advert, in Cornish, they insisted that I supply an English translation and got stroppy when I suggested that their 100% English content requires a Cornish translation, as its circulation is purely on Cornish (and Scillonian) soil. So I suggested that they rename the paper "The Englishman".
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Hunlef Posted: 27.08.2008, 11:54

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IrishJackGood, perhaps you will accept that you live in a free market where the market provides what the people want, celebrity focussed sh1te, and that cornish issues (like issues for the rest of the UK excepting SE, NW, W Midlands and lowland Scotland) are of no interest to the majority of consumers who buy these media products.

You are SOOOOO naive, my dear little IrishJack if you believe this to be the case in totality!

Your sig line gives you away - chucky ar lah is long out of use. the last time 'twas used was by the Brit security services trying to endear themselves to bona fide republicans. Are you one of them?
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IrishJack Posted: 27.08.2008, 12:04

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Sorry are you saying that the illuminati are controlling the media to suppress the widespread interest in cornish issues?

With regard to constitutional court cases there is no public interest in this even if it is of public importance.

I take it my naivity is due to my lack of belief in the anti-cornish conspiracy?

Yes hunlef I'm a GCHQ interloper (oh no now I've blown my cover)
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IrishJack Posted: 27.08.2008, 12:10

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Perhaps the Manchurian Candidate is based in fact?

Perhaps the CLB is sponsored by MI5 to undermine the cornish movement through linguistic disharmony (if so, this has been a throughly succesful tactic and probably put the cornish movement of the rails, perhaps terminally, so much wasted time and effort)
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Hunlef Posted: 27.08.2008, 12:12

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IrishJackPerhaps the CLB is sponsored by MI5 to undermine the cornish movement through linguistic disharmony (if so, this has been a throughly succesful tactic and probably put the cornish movement of the rails, perhaps terminally, so much wasted time and effort)

There are those who take this view.
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IrishJack Posted: 27.08.2008, 12:20

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Yes, me and the other lads at chicksands, gravy, ILH, etc, (make your own list) really love this site. We use it as an educational tool on how small pseudo-political groupings can cripple themselves through petty internal bickering (often not needing any kind of external push) and completely take their eye of the big picture.

But of course hunlef, just because you are paranoid doesn't mean they aren't out to get you.

A language doesn't win you independence and you can't generate press coverage without engaging with the press.



edited by: IrishJack, Aug 27, 2008 - 12:21 PM

Tiocfaidh ar La,
But I'm starting to think that it won't for us cornish, no unity, no leadership, but lots of factions and backbiting

The Bureaucracy needs to expand to meet the needs of the Bureaucracy

http://www.ross...ollkelly.ie/
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Hunlef Posted: 27.08.2008, 12:26

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IrishJackSorry are you saying that the illuminati are controlling the media to suppress the widespread interest in cornish issues?

You mentioned the Illuminati, not me. Nevertheless, there is widespread control of the media in the UK. The BBC is a state-funded organ of government. The press is owned by large media empires, the central characters of which are Establishment figures. Editors are encouraged to tow the establishment line and constantly blast royalist propaganda at the throats of the (gullible) British public. Competition for senior editorial posts is fierce and, should a free-thinking assistant editor stepover the line, his career prospects will vanish like scotch mist. I know this to be a fact, as I have close family involvement in one daily newspaper.

Since the Establisment are duty bound to support its leading figures, any story that might compromise the 'rights, property and profits' of the heir to the throne will receive scant coverage in the dailies or other media. That is not conspiracy, that is the reality. You had better wake up and get a grip on it, my friend.

QuoteIn regard to constitutional court cases there is no public interest in this even if it is of public importance.


Constitutional court cases by their very nature always have a public interest. Whether that interest is reflected in the general public is a matter for the newspapers and media which, in serious Cornish cases, ignore it, thus sustaining and prolonging public ignorance of such matters.

QuoteI take it my naivity is due to my lack of belief in the anti-cornish conspiracy?

You raise the issue of a conspiracy, not me, not anyone else. Perhaps, you are just plain stupid?

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Hunlef Posted: 27.08.2008, 12:37

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IrishJackYes, me and the other lads at chicksands, gravy, ILH, etc, (make your own list) really love this site. We use it as an educational tool on how small pseudo-political groupings can cripple themselves through petty internal bickering (often not needing any kind of external push) and completely take their eye of the big picture.
Just like you appear to have done yourself in regard to the British 'free' press and media that actively restricts public knowledge of such things as constitutional law, the Duchy of Cornwall and Human Rights, whilst at the same time advocating royalism, isolationism and suspicion of foreigners!

QuoteBut of course hunlef, just because you are paranoid doesn't mean they aren't out to get you.

Have I ever expressed anything that is indicative of paranoia? Let me remind you that I always base my assertions on factual eveidence and substantiated references to domestic law and international principles and treaties. That does not make me paranoid. The paranoia to which you refer appears to be an invention of your own mind.
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goky Posted: 27.08.2008, 13:25

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Quoteand suspicion of foreigners!
this sums Honey Luv and Kraig Flintstone up.

The blog The Great Goky Blog
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Hunlef Posted: 27.08.2008, 13:33

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Quoteand suspicion of foreigners!
this sums Honey Luv and Kraig Flintstone up.

We have every good reason to be suspicious of meddling, divisive, interfering and peculiarly narcissic foreigners like yourself. Go fiddle with something else if that is possible to do with your mouth full.
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