Don't know about the eagle/ego having just landed but it sounds like Morvran the Baboon has just farted! he just can't get to grips with the fact that he is not qualified to pass judgement on the work of linguists. Jealousy as he will no doubt be aware, is one of the seven deadly sins!
And there is a school of Irish, Celtic Studies, Folklore and LINGUISTICS at University College, Dublin. Which is where Nicholas Williams taught before his recent retirement.
Nicholas Williams has never been on the staff of any of the colleges you list because he can hardly be in more than one place. He taught at Dublin. Fact (in case "Pieter" is reading this).
If you want his full list of letters before his professorship: MA, PhD, DipCeltStud, FLS, ITIA.
What's yours? RTLC? (Ring-tailed lemur courtship). I'd love to see your party piece sometime.
No, "the ego has landed" was voiced by one of many witnesses at Tremough 3 years ago, when Ken George pronounced his own "Pronunciation and Grammar of Revived Cornish" to be as significant (or should that be "signicant"?)a work as Darwin's "Origin of Species".
That is not an own goal. I was reffering to the process of replacing an extant orthography with one with radically different graphs. It doesn't matter whether all the population of the Congo or even Santa Claus supported it. It is not the fluent and competent speakers that are affected by orthography change. It is learners. No own goal, you simply missed the point.
No, you simply didn't read my post correctly. I said:
I also said:
No own goal, simply you not reading carefully enough, jumping to erroneous conclusions and making inaccurate observations. This seems to be something you may well be more generally guilty of?
If pennysquire is your real name then you have my unreserved apologies, but from your tone, and the fact that you popped out of nowhere for five minutes on the Spellyans list and then came here to denounce it with your very first post, which was suspiciously confidently written for a first post on a forum like this, does nothing to allay my suspicions that you are not who you say you are!
The reason for a lack of anonymity on Spellyans is that it is less likely to end up in a shit flinging match like most of the crap flung around on here. People are "normally" more civil to each other if they think they are addressing a real person. Conversely they don't give a shit what they say to some pathetic, arse-wipe sock puppet identity, and as this is a betrayal of trust, tempers can get a little frayed and harsh words can be said. (I should clarify that this last comment is an illustration, not an insult directly aimed at pennysquire in this case.)
Also, opinions that can be attributed to a specific individual are more likely to be more considered than those that are hidden behind a pseudonym. If you are entering into a serious discussion, why would you need to be anything other than yourself unless your aims were less than constructive? If you take the time to wade through the list you can see that Tim Saunders came on to the list as "Harry" to make fun of it by sounding a bit retarded. It wasn't exactly a successful exercise and he only ended up looking foolish.
I don't know what "pennyquire's" motives were, but she has shown herself to be a troll, if not by 'her' activities on the list, then by squeaking here on C24. she had a partisan agenda from the start as a lot of her posts were discussing KK phonology, this was abandoned by the AHG and is not part of the SWF. The Spellyans list consists of people who do not accept or who have turned their backs on precisely this phonology. There was no point in bringing that up.
If you really want to see the contributions she made and the civil way in which those were handled, then read the lists. I am not going to quote her here, out of context, look for yourselves if you are really bothered. "pennysquire" is obviously as much a partisan KK supporter as any of her compatriots here, and probably *is* one of the existing KK proponents here. In that case she came to the list, not to fix the SWF 'Trad' spelling, which is what the list attempts to achieve, but to attempt to hinder that process and make mischief, probably looking to scratch together ammunition to bring to a viper pit like this one.
We have enough sockpuppets here without another being added to the list.
you ALL have partisan agendas on the spelly list.!
Anyone that defends KK, gets immediately attacked by Eddie and others, and then bashed and thrown out.
It is NOT a site for serious discussion, (except how to spell Crocodile).Now Taran be a good boy/girl and stick to the Spelly list and not bother us here.
Yes, Spellyans forbade anonymity for precisely that reason. It's a sad reflection upon people today that such openness is vulnerable to abuse, which is exactly what transpired.
There is no point in Stephen Reeves posting out-of-context quotes from the Spellyans list on here, except to select a disembodied sentence or two to fire off his cheap shots. The Spellyans archive is open to all, so you can see those quotes in their full and proper context.
We are NOT, repeat NOT, attempting to sabotage the SWF. We support it, we were full participants in it, but we also recognise that some fundamental mistakes were made. We believe that we can fix those faults for the good of the language (not one form or another form - we have even identified points on which Ken George can be shown to be correct!) without detriment to the SWF. Some of those faults have simple solutions; others are far more complex and require research, discussion and a variety of viewpoints before an answer can be determined. These are going to take time but we're not prepared to rush and end up making further mistakes. This was the main problem with the SWF and AHG process - not enough time was allocated to AHG discussion which was not fair on any of its members or, indeed, upon Cornish language users. That was the fault of those involved in its organisation and not the fault of any of the language groups. By blaming each other, we are missing the real target. Bureaucracy.
In this way, we can present solutions to the review of the SWF in 4 and a half years time (yes, half a year gone already!). We're in it for the language, not for ourselves.
maybe that person should not have posted that post in the first place, she/he was getting the cheap shot in, probably thought they was being so smart, maybe trying to match Eddie at his wonderful acid wit.
Yes, but people don't act "normally" when they discuss the language, "Taran".
Some posters here have decided that they know who "Bardh", "goki" and "morvran" are. And just look at the very personal details that have been revealed about them - despite these details being not in the slightest bit relevant to any debate.
Their politics, sexuality, education, alleged moonlight flits ... you name it ... have all been used as an opportunity to hurl another insult. About their personal lives.
It's simple.
Because then the only things that can be discussed and considered are the words on the screen.
You don't get sidetracked, having made a point about the language, by a brainless response that says there is firm evidence that you once visited Newcastle on the train, or that you have an interest in apes' bottoms (snigger).
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