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Curnow Posted: 18.09.2005, 22:28



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Are there any rugby supporters on this site?

The Cornish Pirates beat Rotherham this afternoon at the new ground. 43-13. Great game. Now 2nd in Nat 1. Just below Harlequins.
A well supported match. Approx; 2500-3000.
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Masterclass Posted: 18.09.2005, 23:57



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When are they playing next at home?
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Curnow Posted: 19.09.2005, 17:15



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Hi Masterclass
Next match is 09/10 against Nottingham.
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AndyQ Posted: 19.09.2005, 17:30



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Forgive me guys, but there is a sport thread for this you know. :wink: :wink:
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KingMark Posted: 19.09.2005, 18:26

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There may well be a sports thread, but I'm very much of the opinion that rugby and the Cornish profile go hand in hand. It is much more than sport!!! Before Cornwall went to Twickenham back in late 80s and early 90s you had difficulty in even finding - let alone buying a St Piran flag. Since then they are everywhere. Make no mistake the Cornish Pirates just might, with the right support, become the ambassadors that the County team never could be - as the County Championship has pretty much diappeared.

Whilst I appreciate the need for a little orderliness on this web, don't write off Cornish rugby as just sport...

There's also the TASC forums!
http://www.trelawnys-army.org.uk/
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Masterclass Posted: 19.09.2005, 20:54



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Quote Next match is 09/10 against Nottingham.


That's a pity. I'm down next weekend with my mate Texas James, and I was rather hoping to have taken him to a game. Any others going on?
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AndyQ Posted: 19.09.2005, 23:40



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By the looks of it the Pirates are the new ambassadors of Kernewek rugger, seeing as the CC has taken a back step. If the winners of the CC were ever to be entered into the European Regions Cup, then perhaps the Kernewek national team will return to being the ambassadors again whenever they won the CC. Jim Mckay has agreed to let the CRFU select Pirates players for the CC this season, so i think we could be in for a damn good chance of winning it this season.
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Curnow Posted: 20.09.2005, 07:32



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That's a pity. I'm down next weekend with my mate Texas James, and I was rather hoping to have taken him to a game. Any others going on?


Redruth V Barking (24/09/2005). Kick-off 3:00pm. Saw the Reds last Saturday against Harrogate, whch they won 34-15. I'm hoping to watch the Pirates at Exeter on Saturday 24th. Probably get the train.
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Tumbled Posted: 21.09.2005, 09:21



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Pirates fly flag for Cornwall

It took the Cornish Pirates just three weeks to build their new home outside Truro. They will have three years to realise the dream of their chairman, Dicky Evans, and bring Premiership rugby to the Duchy for the first time.

Planning difficulties meant that the Pirates, the re-branded Penzance & Newlyn, had to work against the clock to erect the stands, changing rooms and bars - all temporary - on a converted school playing field at Kenwyn in time for Sunday's National League One game against Rotherham.

By moving from the Mennaye Field at Penzance, the club's home since 1945, to neutral territory at Truro, Evans hopes to tap into a new commercial market and broaden the club's support base. The inclusion of the flag of St Piran in the club's badge is designed to mobilise the passionate county-wide support that used to attend Cornwall's County Championship matches.

Inevitably, there were some first-day teething problems with the park and ride scheme and mutterings about under-cooked pasties - no laughing matter in a county where the quality of the local delicacy is almost as important as rugby.

A crowd of 2,200 in a stadium that holds 6,000 might have appeared disappointing but Evans, a former Penzance & Newlyn centre who made his fortune from a Kenya-based horticultural business, regarded the first day - including a 43-13 victory - as a success.

"Cornish rugby is a sleeping giant," Evans said. "Rugby is the main sport down here and I believe that we have the potential support to sustain a Premiership club. At Penzance two-thirds of our catchment area was the Atlantic. Moving to Truro brings us closer to the major centres of population. What I need to see is whether people in Cornwall share that vision and whether they will come along and support us.

"The indicators from the first game are encouraging. We had 1,000 more in the ground than we had against Rotherham last year. We sold more tickets in advance for any game than we did last year, pulled in people from other clubs and took more in corporate hospitality than for any other game."

When Evans played alongside Stack Stevens, the revered former England prop, Penzance & Newlyn regularly took on major London clubs. By 1987 they were at such a low ebb that they were placed in the Devon and Cornwall League when leagues were introduced.

Like Worcester's benefactor, Cecil Duckworth, Evans has made a significant investment since rugby went professional 10 years ago. He has now set Jim McKay, the Australian head coach who arrived a year ago via Henley, Pertemps Bees, Orrell and Rotherham, the task of completing their rise through the leagues.

"The aim is to bring Premiership rugby to Cornwall and I believe that we have the core of a Premiership squad," Evans said. "When Jim McKay wants to bring in a player he has to believe that player is capable of playing in the Premiership."

The Pirates have a three-year agreement at Kenwyn, an unlikely setting for Premiership rugby with a caravan park at one end and a cornfield at the other. If the Pirates achieve Evans' ambition they will seek a site for a permanent stadium. If not, they still have the option of returning to the Mennaye Field, which remains the club's training base.

"I want to see what the financial numbers look like by Christmas and then I will have an idea of where we are going," Evans said.

"We've maintained the Mennaye as a base for rugby in Penzance and it's being developed into a ground that will be more than adequate for National One rugby. But I hope that what we're doing at Kenwyn is the start of something very big."


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/main.jhtml?xml=/sport/2005/09/20/srpira20.xml&sSheet=/sport/2005/09/20/ixrugu.html

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Stonefly Posted: 01.10.2005, 18:37

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Oh dear, Bedford, eh? Hope the wheels haven't fallen off already, Dickie icon_redface
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AndyQ Posted: 01.10.2005, 21:12



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Oh good god, one defeat and it's the end!! I don't think so Stonefly, not everyones perfect. icon_biggrin
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Stonefly Posted: 01.10.2005, 23:47

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Don't be so defensive, Andy....the only reason I'm not crying into my Australian sparkling wine is because Beds didn't hammer Pz & N icon_smile
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AndyQ Posted: 03.10.2005, 14:54



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Don't get me wrong Stonefly i'm not upset at the defeat, no i think we needed it to bring us back down to earth and reality. I just thought you were one of the old guard who can't accept change and was having having a go at Dickie.
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Stonefly Posted: 03.10.2005, 16:17

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I am & I was :P (nice to see Bay are still unbeaten!)
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AndyQ Posted: 03.10.2005, 17:19



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I can understand your feelings towards the Cornish Pirates, i was dead against the idea and losing the Penzance and Newlyn name for the team. If you have read any of my posts on this site, This is Cornwall and Trelawnys Army sites in the past, you'll have seen my feelings against such a move to a club Cornwall and Penzance & Newlyn name change. After reading what Dickie had to say and thinking about the future for a long time, i reluctantly accepted the change and fully support the Cornish Pirates venture.

What i would like to see is a Penzance & Newlyn side still playing in the Cornish leagues or may be dare i say it, Mounts Bay change their name to Penzance & Newlyn RFC, after all the Saracens we know playing in the premiership also have a side playing in the lower London leagues, supported by those who were disenchanted by the arrival and change of professionalism.

Yes, it is very good to see the Bay unbeaten and rugger still being played at the REAL home of the Pirates.
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