Can someone clarify for me, the link if any, between the proposed Newlyn make-over with the fish processing in The Coombe and the Penlee development. Also, not much mention has been made on the former and how popular/essential it is.
OK, so as less than 5% of houses in Cornwall are second homes, where should the cap be put? I think 5% is a reasonable figure for second homes.
And as the developers of the quarry have offered to build affordable houses as part of the plan, should this be mandated in all brown and green field developments?
Also, should there be a wealth limit on immigration into Cornwall?
Some of these second home owners may retire to Cornwall, and be very active in the community. We retired to our second home and are very active in this community. We are also seeing investment etc here. Some things that are happening here is making life better for the locals. Cornwall was a secret for many years, now everyone wants a part of it, everyone has more time to holiday and are keen to save and see places. Where I live is so much like Penwith and that's why I love it.
Spot on Diane and it is people like you who enrich, and enjoy, the Cornish way of life.
I have no problem with people have a first home in Cornwall and a second home in England.
Now Stroppy. Do you have a home in Sennen and do you live in it?
What is a ROTRMCO (or whatever)? When I was going no, no, no and said not being negative, I was having a small joke.
I like you Stroppy, I enjoy your debates even though you (and I) will never change our views. All we can do is try to influence others.
Stroppy and Diane, you really don't get it do you. Lowest wages in the country, highest house prices outside London. (£15,000 and £220,000 respectively - figures from Penwith Council)
I suppose you can't see why people might be a little unhappy down here when they can't even imagine buying a place and have to watch others buying places as investments
Yes I do understand why they're unhappy, this has been going on for years, nothing has changed and I wish you luck in changing things, but I don't think you will. If people are unhappy enough they will help to change things. I don't see that happening either, it's always down to a few. if you're unhappy, move, that's the only advice I can give. I certainly wouldn't want to live my life feeling unhappywith my lot.
One in twenty houses might not seem a lot when dispersed throughout the streets of our major conurbations like Redruth-Pool-Camborne. However, they are usually concentrated in villages and hamlets and thus have a greater impact on the places when left empty for part of the year. With this in mind, the average figure of 5% is probably too high to avoid the well known problems.
I might be wrong, but I thought this already applies to developments over a certain size.
Personally, I don't think so. We're not the regulatory type and it sends out a rather nonprogressive image. Massively rich people are not going to interfere in housing that might affect the rest of us.
Hope you had a good visit to the coast and have got the sand out from between your toes
Some people believe the term "brown field" has rather a loose definition when used by some bodies e.g. including both local authorities and urban regeneration companies.
Oh well, there seem to be two schools of thought here. Those who actually live here and can see what's going on and those who don't.
Correct me if I'm wrong!
Re the green / brown field sites, brown field sites actually have a much greater biodiversity than greenfield sites, so building on them can be worse for the environment. Green fields can be a near monoculture with just a handful of plant species, supporting a limited range of insects and other wildlife, whereas brown field sites usually have a much greater range of plants and animals. The problem is that green fields look "nicer".
That can be true Diane, but when there are such large inequalities / disparities it isn't so much fun for those who haven't got the financial resources and choices of the group that have been able to move here. I think there a danger that people who move here go from wanting to join in and become part of the community to taking over. They then get annoyed when they feel all this effort they are putting in isn't being appreciated. This fits in with normal human behaviour. I’m not saying the people who might by luxury housing are better or worse than anyone else, but you can estimate that a high percentage of those people who would move into any high priced housing at Penlee would be those used to being in control, having their own way, getting things done and very self confident. The community wouldn't be socially balanced therefore and the Cornish because of their lack of financial clout are likely to be pushed to the periphery. They are in fact going to end up like an ethnic minority in their own country, looked down upon or just seen as a curiosity to be occasionally patronized when it suits, by a well off relatively more powerful elite. Well that could happen but I believe there’s enough people around who recognize that and will fight to keep a level playing field.
We are in desperate need of affordable housing for local people, so isn't it extremely anti social to be discussing the building of luxury homes for those who already have a home (and probably an extremely large and expensive one at that)? I quote an article written by the Policy Officer of the Royal Town Planning Institute: Housing allocations, as proposed, reject need in favour of demand. This will result in housing being delivered where it is demanded rather than where it is needed. There is a big difference between housing need and demand, particularly in terms of location, tenure, size and of course affordability. House builders will naturally seek to provide housing that maximises economic return, and quite rightly so, but by allowing market demand to lead house building we will be failing those that need our help the most, those who are unable to influence demand in the market place and who need truly affordable houses to be built.
Those of us who say this are not against “progress�, but all change or all new development is not necessarily progress even though those who want to get their own way would want everyone to think that it is. Development should also be to scale. We should consider what the impact of the extra traffic might be. There is also the possibility that people who buy high priced housing in an area which they consider to be rural, quiet and clean would become antagonistic towards any expansion within the Newlyn fishing industry.
I love the sea and anything to do with it, whether it’s working fishing ports, or yacht marinas, so I am certainly not against the idea of development which would see an increase in the marine industry around Cornwall. I think it’s brilliant. Mylor yacht harbour has developed without the need to plonk a great estate of luxury houses in the centre of it and that’s a better way to go.
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