Porthia1947, I'll agree that not living there we don't know the full picture, but the way you talk, it sounds as if every cornish person is living in utter poverty, walking around in rags dragging little children with them. If I wasn't from Cornwall, and know better that is what I'd believe. Don't do that, it's not giving the locals any confidence, in fact they might begin to believe things are as bad as you paint them. There are some Cornish people who are well off surely? they're not all living on the poverty line are they? I'm beginning to cry in my coffee here!!
Yes I have a house in Sennen, no I do not live in it. As I've said countless times before, I rent it ot to a local couple, and subsidise them as they do not pay enough rent to cover the mortgage. It is not a second home, as I do not use it AT ALL myself.
Rolling on the floor laughing my ***** off!
So why the complaints about the "gentrification" of Cornwall on the first page of this debate? (Not from you I admit)
I did, many thanks!
Another gem of concisive debate and intellectual contribution from the resident numpty. Where would Cornwall24 be without your gems of insight?
Your wrong.
Isn't it also wrong to be dismissing the building of affordable homes as well?
And I'd like to see your evidence that the quarry homes are going to to be all bought by those that can afford "expensive second homes."
But that's what the MK lot want Diane, they want Cornwall to become a little socialist paradise, where the Cornish and the Cornish alone can live in subsidised housing, remote from any of the challenges of the rest of the UK, and a land where they can build utopia, funded by Brussels, and ruled by a Cornish speaking minority, in the interest of them and them alone.
Quote: "....the way you talk, it sounds as if every Cornish person is living in utter poverty, walking around in rags dragging little children with them."
Diane, no that's not what I was not what I have been saying. It's because the Cornish have been resilient and tough and adaptable that they've survived so long, but things are changing and while to survive we all should adapt to the current trends where some people move around the UK, around Europe, around the world to find their "place in the sun" it's still a minority of people who are able to do that, because to do it you generally have to be young, have few family commitments and have disposable income, which many people still don't have in Cornwall (as well as elsewhere).
No of course people here are not running around in rags, but relatively speaking they don't have the power of a great amount of disposable income. Coming from Cornwall you will know that historically the average Cornish wage has been low, that many people here have been unable to get onto the housing ladder (yes I know many have as well) and therefore restricted to living in council/housing association properties. If Cornwall continues to attract people with high disposable incomes who can easily afford the high price of even a small two-up to-down cottage and at the same time developers are building luxury houses for those who can afford the even higher price of these, how is any of our people going to get into a position where they can even afford their first house.
The number of affordable homes is infinitesimally small compared to the number of "normal priced" homes already built or being built. Because of its image/attraction Cornwall could end up being sharply divided between have and have nots and I for one don't want to see that. I am certainly not against people moving in, but there has to be fairness and balance.
I'm sure you realise that stroppygob has an extraordinarily large chip on his shoulder about anything aimed at empowering the people of Cornwall to be proactive in decisions about the future of Cornwall. What I am saying (not what he says I and others are saying) is that an estate of high priced housing is just as bad for the community as the other way around. The number of affordable houses in the proposed Penlee Quarry development like in most new housing developments, will be small.
stroppy tries to tar us all with the socialist label, but I have never been a member or active in any socialist group, I have never read one single publication by Marx, Engels, Lenin, Trotsky, Guevara or any guru of socialism and neither have I read anything written by any high priest/priestesses of the right. I just have a gut feeling that I should speak up when I see things happening that disadvantage those who haven't got the advantages of others, including stroppygob and myself.
Like I said, if you don't live here (or have your eyes open) you don't see what's happening.
I love quotes like that:
You've got terminal cancer - Life's unfair, deal with it..
You've been put in prison for something you didn't do - Life's unfair, deal with it..
Your kids a heroin addict - Life's unfair, deal with it..
I could go on put I don't really think I had that much of a point to make in the first place.
Stroppy, your apathy is inspiring, you'd be right at home in Nu-Labour UK!
Ok, so let's review your conrtibution to the topic at hand...
Yet again nothing but name calling....
Saying that some people have more money than others, is rather less of a "get over it" than cancer, unfair imprisonment, or a child being a heroin addict, or are you saying that these strawmen asides carry equal weight?
What I'm saying is an injustice is an injustice and to go round making such off the cuff comments as life is unfair, deal with it is extremely dismissive and for all I know you might live your life by that motto
One of the reasons Cornwall is different is the Cornish people. Despite being on low incomes, huge amounts are raised for charity to help those less fortunate both locally and abroad. If we think something is unjust we do 'deal with it' by campaigning fundraising and volunteer work. Stroppy's version of dealing with something seems to mean don't bother me, go away and pull yourself together. This is the same self centred attitude that is leading to the breakdown of society.
I accept that life is not fair but nothing will improve unless people care enough to try and change things.
The definition of society I would choose is 'A large group of people who live together in an organized way, making decisions about how to do things and sharing the work that needs to be done' Maybe the word I should use now is community as since the early 1980s 'society' seems to have become interchangeable with 'government' as if paying taxes or voting removes personal responsibility.
As we have the first past the post system many, governments although they have most members in the house, have not had the support of the majority of voters and many of the decisions made do not reflect the wishes of the electorate. Therefore, a population who are being given legislation they do not suport, cannot be 'society'.
Margaret Thatcher was partly right when she went on to say, 'It's our duty to look after ourselves and then, also to look after our neighbour.' More important is what she did not say, which was that looking after oneself should not be at the expense of our neighbour. I am pleased to say that in Cornwall the statement she never made, is ingrained in many communities.
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