A development involving a hotel, etc is taking place near St Austell at Carlyon Bay (Crinnis). There may be some similarities to the proposed Penlee site:
http://www.carlyonbeach.com/carlyon/jsp/index.jsp
In the Stop the Marina in Penlee Quarry group leaflet they do mention affordable homes:
‘Housing Crisis’ Jim Mckenna, Chief Executive of Penwith District Council has stated that over 90% of the new property in Port Penlee will be bought by cash buyers coming from outside Cornwall. Seeing as the low-end price of marina property in the U.K is around £350000 this is not difficult to believe. Mr McKenna, and presumably the developers also, believe that these incomers will be starting up businesses and giving everyone employment. It is more-likely they will be early- or semi-retired and that their younger family members will be directly competing for our local jobs.
The Council appears to have agreed a sweetener’ with the developers and will get about fifty affordable’ homes built for them as part of the deal. These will almost certainly be built outside of Port Penlee and are also unlikely to be located in the prime traditional stone buildings that will be ripe for redevelopment once the current fish-related businesses have relocated to Stable Hobba."
email address for "Stop the Marina in Penlee Quarry" is contact@stopthemarina.co.uk
If you are against the marina development why not offer help with leafletting, displaying a window poster, car sticker, writing letters to the paper, fund raising or just spreading the word!
Sob sob, all those poor Newlyn smack head fisherman might have some yuppies squawking in their back yard. This development sounds like hell on Earth. Then again Newlyn, with all that homo erotic whinging about fish quotas, is such a self righteous and pityful (and downright sinister for that) excuse for 'close knit' community, we should ring fence the entire penwith district and have a kind of inter-class modern day fist fight amongst the lot of you!
Sounds like the guy above came home from the pub and had a trawl through the this site making moronic comments. Probably best not to encourage him.
The latest plans for the redevelopment and regeneration of Newlyn Harbour and Sandy Cove were laid out before the public last Friday and Saturday (17/18 Oct).
Having read through the various parts of this discussion (ignoring the obvious clashes of egos) I am surprised that there has been no mention of percentage of local properties that are already holiday homes and therefore no longer part of the local housing stock!
I live in Paul and have progressively watched any home that comes on the housing market becoming second homes (some of which are only used for two, yes two weeks a year) there is only a 60% full time occupancy rate for the village and that is getting lower all the time. It is even worse in Mousehole with only a 40% full time occupancy rate.
It is not surprising that the very essence of the area is being destroyed (by holiday homes), local shops and post offices (those that we still have;the majority of the visitors even seem to bring their shopping with them from up-country, perhaps they think we don't have shops here!) are constantly under threat because the permanent population is progressively getting smaller.
The same can be said of the threat to the local schools as if there are fewer children living here full time they will also be closed and like the others that have already been closed probably end up as high end holiday homes so making the problem even worse.
PORT PENLEE
The big businesses who are promoting "Port Penlee" say that the will make a difference with the amount of wealth that it will generate for the area, failing to mention that the greater majority of the "wealth" will be for the developers! The will not be using local workers for the majority of the build (it appears they are already sourcing cheap labour overseas). The jobs they say they will create when it is finished will probably also be filled the same way or be minimum wage part time jobs, and as for "affordable housing" certainly not in the Marina area after all they wouldn't want any "poor people" near by especially if the Luxury development gos ahead as a gated village with security guards posted to keep out the plebs.
The only thing we can be guaranteed to get, if the development does go ahead, is an even more overloaded infrastructure, that at the moment only just copes with the present population ;where it has been run down due to the lack of permanent residents.
Roads crammed to bursting point from the thousands of extra traffic movements generated by the work and the construction of the marina and associated industrial estate at Sandy Cove; Newlyn will come to a standstill.
The proposed opening bridge will cut off Mousehole for a couple of hours a day at peak usage (using the developers own figures of proposed use). Traffic will back up even more and people will then stop going to Mousehole as visitors as it will become even more of a bottle neck in the summer.
And so it goes on! If you want to see the area thrive as a community rather than a glorified holiday camp for the well to do (like Rock) it is up to us all to make a stand against the progressive destruction of our area by developers. A first step would be to join the Stop the Marina group and make your voices heard (rather than just comment about things in postings),I have because I think we need to start making a stand before Mounts Bay becomes a suburban sprawl of holiday homes and the common working man gets pushed into ghettos of cheap low quality housing out of sight of the new influx of second homers!
Wouldn't a better start be made by putting forward some positive ideas for the area, rather than just the usual :"Ban this! Stop that! No more of this! Down with that!"
And just what is your wondrous plan for providing well-paid jobs and affordable houses to the Cornish population, and cutting down on the numbers of second and holiday homes?
That's what we are doing stroppy - we're saying if the choice is between having 150 luxury homes and 50 affordable homes which is in effect building a moderately sized new village, between two long established Cornish communities. it would be preferable to have no luxury homes and have houses for local need built at prices that will allow local people people a chance to compete for them, spread out in moderate numbers across Cornwall, where and when needed. Or else provide many more houses/flats to rent for those who don't want to buy yet or at all. That's quite positive unless you're someone who hopes to gain from exploitation of Cornwall.
I agree cornishpagan but I think the idea by those in the forum that agree with the Stop the Marina Group was to publicise the issue.
Apparently, there are around a million empty homes in the UK. And they want to build more, on every available bit of green/brown on this already overcrowded island.
I did contact them and offer them a spot for a press releases but they didn't get back to me. I think they could do with being a little more proactive
As a slight aside, this is the kind of apathy and cluelessnes that exists out there (don't mention politics or upset anyone with an opinion):
http://www.newlyn.info/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.pl?board=001;action=display;num=1053716743;start=15#15
How about the Cornish do their best at school, go to college if possible, get the best paid job they can, and buy houses where they can afford them; in the same way as everybody else in the country has to?
How about the Cornish refuse to sell on their homes to outsiders for second homes?
How about the Cornish run for government under the "Build 10,000 cheap council homes, only for the use of 3 rd generation Cornish people, and ban emmet's from Cornwall Party"
Thanks for your typically constructive suggestion, strop, it's good to know that you have real feelings for Cornwall and the Cornish. I'm really looking forward to the day when you decide to grace us with your presence again and boot the local family in your Sennen second home out onto the street. The cultural and community spirit of Sennen will become a beacon for the rest of Cornwall to aspire to once you return to our shores with your love of Cornwall and all things Cornish. Maybe we could all club together and raise the money for the air fare so this joyous day can be brought forward as soon as possible and you can lead us all into a golden age of prosperity and cultural identity for Cornwall.
Anyone got a small daughter who could present strop with a bouquet of flowers as he descends the aircraft steps to place his foot upon our unworthy soil?
Oh for gawd's sake! I know you lot thrive on nothing but envy, BUT! How many times do I have to point out that it is not a "second home", if it were how could there be a local family living in it?
And I note, with interest, that rather than addressing the issue at hand, you go for the personal attack again. Just goes to show how devoid of ideas the MK crowd really are.
I must admit the rest of your post sounds feasable, can you arrange the ceremony for August 2006? We should be visiting Cornwall then, I'll give you the fine details closer to the date.
Yes they are a bunch of lazy, ill-educated, ungrateful rif-raff.
Where your, wonderfully well thought out suggestion falls a little flat is that Cornwall now has the highest differential between wages and property prices in the UK. So to earn enough money to buy a house requires earning an over average salary and this in turn involves leaving Cornwall. In the meantime, as has been mentioned in this thread every home that goes on the market is sold to retirees or second home owners.
How would you feel about paying £180,000 for a very average house on your salary?
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