V Tree
A large V shaped pine tree on the Antony estate near Torpoint...
Seaton Beach
Located at the bottom of the Seaton River valley this sand and shingle beach is popular with families. At low tide it joins up with Downderry around the headland...
Seaton River
The Seaton River as it flows out of the valley and through the village of the same name...
Portwrinkle
Looking down over the one time fishing village of Portwrinkle. In the background is the start of Whitsand Bay as it stretches 4 miles down the Rame Peninsula...
Loads of CofE churchs do. Helston church does on special occasions but does also fly Baner Sen Peran sometimes. Apparently the non-Cornish vicar pressed for St P's flag to be flown, the local church warden didn't want it. Bizarre.
Edit: This could be the reason why the roadsign flag hasn't taken off (from BBC website):
Of course. And the distinct-Cornish-identity nay-sayers have won again thanks to Cornish infighting. Brilliant. Really pisses me off. No-one seems to be able to swallow their pride and personal opinion and just accept a solution which is good for Cornwall. Not good for themselves or their own views, but for Cornwall. Until that happens, we're knackered.
I agree 101% Lyskerrys. I nearly wrote something similar. The coat of arms is equally if not more so religous -bezants and the ransom of the prince from the Saracens, during The Crusades and the motto also. This thing was voted on and the flag won - I sent an email in myself. God help us. This falls within my category of 'fannying about'
Anonymous
Posted: 30.05.2006, 16:57
Unregistered User
One problem with the 'spelling debate' is that an awful lot of people with very strong opinions actually know extremely little about Cornish. Having been a fluent speaker for a couple of decades or so - and in that time having got to know the language movement inside out, I hope you will forgive me for sounding a trifle cynical about some of the comment...
For instance, a new edition of the UCR dictionary was published recently. The news article in the WMN featured large photographs of two individuals and lengthy doses of their opinions, which were strongly anti Kernewek Kemmyn and, of course, pro UCR.
One was the present chair of Agan Tavas (which was originally set up to promote spoken Cornish, before it was 'reconstituted' at a secret meeting to which no users of Kernewek Kemmyn were invited - though they were the bulk of its membership! - and (surprise, surprise) changed into an anti- Kernewek Kemmyn splinter-group). In the course of the article he admitted that his Cornish was not good, but believed that he could teach Cornish to Grade Two standard.
This same individual has been attacking the Cornish Language Board, Kernewek Kemmyn and anyone who supports it for two decades - yet in that time has only managed to accumulate enough Cornish to teach - in his opinion (!) - to Grade Two standard.
So Agan Tavas has a near-beginner (in ability) for a chairman, who shows no hesitation in voicing extreme criticisms of the Cornish language mainstream and who questions the judgement and settled will of people whose ability in Cornish he will never have the ability or knowledge to comprehend.
The previous past chairman of agan Tavas also appeared - with his opinions - in the article. He has self published a 'text book' for beginners stuffed with elementary mistakes which would have failed him Grade One. Yet another imposter whose opinions about the language are in inverse proportion to his ability to use it!
If anyone wants to know where Cornish is going and where the expertise, ability and support is - look for publications and membership. Almost all Cornish language publications including teaching texts (titles into three figures) are by Kesva an Taves Kernewek (the Cornish language Board) and Kowethas an Yeth Kernewek (the Cornish Language Fellowship).
The Fellowship has around three hundred members, with a high proportion of that number being fluent speakers with a provable ability (by examination results). Agan Taves can't even get a half-decent speaker for a chairman these days...
Kernewek Kemmyn is by far the best spelling on offer. To start with, it is a system, which the others are not. Secondly it represents the sounds of Cornish simply and clearly - great to teach with, great to learn with. Thirdly - very few indeed use anything else, and very little is published in anything else.
Finally, any 'compromise' would result in forcing an unwanted orthography on probably 90% of Cornish speakers, and would force teachers and learners to use an inferior product which would make it more difficult to teach and learn Cornish.
Given the PR points, preceding the above quote; the PR comment in favour of Kemmyn on another thread - http://www.cornwall24.co.uk/index.php?name=PNphpBB2&file=viewtopic&p=18054&sid=b60653efb7c50d43a7b2ca164385081b#18054 - and, the apparent absence of any input from the other language clubs, surely, an external academic assessment of the orthographies, could resolve the situation beyond any doubts and recriminations?
Myself, and others, fail to see why this course of action seems to be so strongly resisted? The above predicted 'downside' of a compromise may well be imaginary and/or, potentially, not happen at all!! 8)
Having looked into the background to the over personal 'Machiavelli Tregagle' message re Agan Tavas it turns up that this is part of an ongoing expression of jealousy by this character both of Agan Tavas and its ability to always choose very charismatic, very well respected linguists/language historians as chairmen and of Nicholas Wiliams who is the only professional Celtic linguist applying rigorous academic practices to the Cornish language.
The playing field is level, however, and if this individual's own work and level of contribution is up to it he should think about about approaching Simon Parker for a double page spread in his own right. Hypothetically we would look forward to an attempt at something interesting but can appreciate, with, compassion, the personal case here for a low profile.
More troubling though is the high level of inaccuracy in the posting with regard to the original article and further information would be helpful to see if this type of hysterical hyperbole is in reality a trait of other outporings from this source.
Finally, the dictionary gives a few telling insights:
Machiavellian - 'perfidious in conduct or action'
- 'ruled by expediency rather than morality'
An obvious point, and one that is directly counteractive to the underlying 'Machiavelli Tregagle' message is that something so vitally important to Cornwall as the language should never, ever, be 'ruled by expediency rather than morality'.
Ha! If it was a REAL language we wouldn't need ........
"very well respected linguists/language historians as chairmen and of Nicholas Wiliams who is the only professional Celtic linguist applying rigorous academic practices to the Cornish language."
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