V Tree
A large V shaped pine tree on the Antony estate near Torpoint...
Seaton Beach
Located at the bottom of the Seaton River valley this sand and shingle beach is popular with families. At low tide it joins up with Downderry around the headland...
Seaton River
The Seaton River as it flows out of the valley and through the village of the same name...
Portwrinkle
Looking down over the one time fishing village of Portwrinkle. In the background is the start of Whitsand Bay as it stretches 4 miles down the Rame Peninsula...
Didn't I read somewhere that the SWF of the entire language was supposed to be resolved by May of this year? Hope they don't have so much trouble over the spelling of Qornoowick...
If I had been running the process towards a SWF we'd have had one a decade ago. Your Nightmare process is clearly working really, really well so far if they can't even agree on the spelling of a single word - in fact, they can't even agree on a single letter. Maybe your Nightmare method isn't the best way forward after all. Strange, that. If you really believe that some sort of academic process will stop the arguments you're living in cloud cuckoo land, considering the lack of agreement over c or k in a single word.
I know from past comments that you despise Kemmyn. What I want to know is this: if the academic process comes up with a spelling system that is 99.999% the same as Kemmyn, would you accept it and use it?
Before I respond to your query, kind sir/madam, I would like you to elucidate precisely what you mean by my "Nightmare process".
Although there may be some in government circles who feel that my nom de plume is appropriate, I am surprised that one who is ostensibly pro-Cornish is seemingly similarly inclined!
My statements on this forum do not lead one to the conclusion that I despise "Kemmyn". Those comments that I have made relate to Kemmyn's apparent lack of independent, academic substantiation, a lack that you have so far been unable to address. Perhaps, you know something in this regard that I and others know nothing about? Could this be why you regard my "process", as you describe it, as being associated with a nightmare?
Now to your query....
I have stated previously that I, an admitted Cornish language stamp collector, will accept and abide by the pronouncements of an independent academic panel. If they come out with KK, then so be it.
As has been reiterated previously: there are NO regular spellings or pronunciations in ANY of the extant texts so neither we nor ANY expert knows totally accurately how Cornish should be pronounced (and therefore spelt) so no reconstructed version of Cornish can EVER be academically watertight. All of this process is therefore a waste of time. We would have been better off with the Partnership flipping a coin after the first Tremough conference to pick one of the existing systems and officially supporting that rather than showing to the world that we can't even decide on a single word. We'd already have had a couple of years of school-level education and a new generation of Kernewegoryon on their way to fluency rather than this c/k pantomine.
If you accept that KK is potentially the system that the experts may come up with, why don't we just save a huge amount of time and money and run with it? All of this prevarication is purely on the part of the few stiff-necked speakers (on all sides) who only want their own version chosen.
In other words, you, an amateur Cornish language enthusiast knows better than those with formal academic qualifications. As i said before - the philosophy you appear to be advocating is akin to the government giving responsibility for the running of the railway system to the hands of train spotters or the running of the Post Office to the hands of stamp collectors. Don't be so arrogant and ridiculous!
Because you know best, I presume!
If the Partnership had done the job as it should have been done right at the very outset - with guidance and input from linguistic experts, language planners and those with experience in administrative procedures, the job would have been finished by now. It is still a fact that the language is in a complete and utter mess because of the amateur approach that has been adopted.
Who said that I do? I am, like you, a mere amateur with no experience or qualifications in the specialisations that are required to make such a judgement. But, of course, I forgot, you know best!
Do you refer to the same time and money that would have been saved if those with responsibility had done the job properly in the first place?
I presume that you are one of them??
Now....finally...I will ask you the same question as you asked me....
If an independent panel of independent academic linguistic experts favoured Unified of Late Cornish as the SWF, would you accept their recommendation?
I fear that this is a long way from over whatever the "partnership" may or may not eventually decide, I quote from the aforementioned letter; "...na vydh Furv Skrifys Unnik saw Kernewek Kemmyn kemmeradow dhe'n Kowethas. KK a veu degemmerys nans yw pell avel Furv Skrifys Unnik gans Kesva an Taves."
Them's fightin' words...
"Du gveras a b c
an pen can henna yv d
ny won na moy yn liuer"
Kowethas an Yeth Kernewek has published the results of its Kernewek usage survey, with their analysis verified by an external, qualified person. It shows overwhelming support for Kemmyn.
No, it's just another version constructed by valid and acceptable principles. Although according to some people NONE of the current versions are academically acceptable.
This is true but wasn't the survey conducted of it's own members? Kowethas is the Kemmyn supporting group so unsurprisingly a survey of it's members showed overwhelming support for Kemmyn. It's a bit like asking Labour Party Members which party they support, and anyway is this just a question of numbers? If so then a simple poll would resolve the question, (and no doubt Kemmyn would win) but wasn't the point of this process to heal the divisions between the various factions, to establish one "official" written form that would be accepted by all enabling the language to be used and studied from primary school up to the highest levels of academia?
A tall order. Are we to expect a simple validation of one of the existing forms? (it's... like it or lump it). A modification of one of the existing forms? (Kemmyn Amendys?) Or some kind of fusion? (Kemmyn Unys?)!
Come off it Fulub, I hardly think that this lively interesting debate on current issues of spelling amounts to a government fuelled conspiracy to provoke civil war.
It's not really like that at all. If you asked Labour Party Members which party they support, it seems highly unlikely that 10% of them would say they supported the Conservatives.
The Kowethas survey shows that members use all forms of Cornish, and the Kowethas says it welcomes anyone that supports the language, regardless of the written form they use. The survey seems to bear this out, and I know a number of the members who are Unified users and they don't seem to think they are made to feel unwelcome. So why do people think it is "the Kemmyn supporting group"? Probably because An Gannas, published by the Kowethas, is in Kemmyn. However, that's hardly surprising given that 88% of the members prefer to use Kemmyn. Nevertheless it is no doubt true that there are people that would not join the Kowethas because they believe it is a "Kemmyn organisation". That's a shame.
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