V Tree
A large V shaped pine tree on the Antony estate near Torpoint...
Seaton Beach
Located at the bottom of the Seaton River valley this sand and shingle beach is popular with families. At low tide it joins up with Downderry around the headland...
Seaton River
The Seaton River as it flows out of the valley and through the village of the same name...
Portwrinkle
Looking down over the one time fishing village of Portwrinkle. In the background is the start of Whitsand Bay as it stretches 4 miles down the Rame Peninsula...
Porthia and Kattel,
How sad that you are so embittered for some reason to choose any other nation over England. When you think of the Cornishmen who give their all in the England shirt, Vickery, Woodman, Voyce, Barclay et al. I am proud to be Cornish but, for reasons of my own, I had to work and live in England for some time before returning to my beloved Cornwall and I can assure you the English people are not ogres and I enjoyed my stay among them. If Cornwall were in the6N I would support them before England but not otherwise, I will cheer the Cornish players who play for England before any other nation.
Hi Kenwynn
I'm not sad or embittered FYI and I don't think that all English people are ogres (where did you get that idea from?) I choose not to support them and to support any other nation over them because I find them (sports wise) arrogant, aggressive and overbearing. If I have to endure another summer of English flags being waved at me I think I might scream. England is not my nation so therefore I can choose to support anyone else thanks.
Who waves English flags at you in Cornwall Kattell? As I said I support Cornwall above all others but as we don't have a team in the 6N I will support England because of the Cornishmen who play for them.
How many Cornishmen play for any other nation? I still think it sad that you would support the likes of South Africa or Australia over England. And by the way it's not the average English supporter who is arrogant it's the media. Strangely enough if Cornwall were represented as a nation in any sport against anyone other than England that same media would be supporting Cornwall. Why is it so hard for you to reciprocate??
It feels like it's everyone! On cars, in shops, hanging out of bedroom windows it's overwhelming.....I can't believe you haven't noticed!
It's mostly the (English run) media of course, who are dreadfully biased and I don't believe they would support Kernow if circumstances were different. Maybe the average England supporter who is actually Cornish isn't arrogant but the average English England supporter appears to be...Have you seen the anti Cornish bile on the BBC messageboard?
I agree we should support our players who are in other teams as they have no choice but I'm afraid I can't bring myself to do that if the team is England.
I suppose we'll have to agree to disagree Kattell. Actually I have not seen that many English flags in deepest Penwith, maybe they are further up near the Tamar?
I too read and occasionally post on the BBC English rugby message board and have not, in all honestly, seen any anti Cornish posts as most of the posts on there are either GP or International based, ND1 and below rugby gets barely a mention.
and Kenwyn if you don't know the answer to that (and the clues are dotted throughout this forum) I don't think running through it all again is going to be worthwhile. We'll just have to agree to disagree as you said. Being Cornish and thinking you're English is a bit like thinking you can only eat fish on a Friday or thinking you have to add salt to boil your spuds properly. More than likely you believe it because that's what you've been told is true from birth and you've never thought of questioning it. (You can tell from this I like my food - )
Ian don't be so patonisingly insulting! I know what I am and I'm proud of it but being so does not make me a one eyed Celt who dislikes the English and everything about them. I'll leave that to the people with closed minds!!
You can only assume that a Cornish person who would support England over Cymru has little or no knowledge of the history of these three nations. Would these Cornish England supporters expect a Tibetan to support China? ( before anyone takes issue with this comparison, the fact is that the two situations have remarkable similarities). Also, as Kattell said, I am not English, England is not my nation and I can support anyone I choose over them.
Kernow
Cymru
Scotland Ireland
Australia
Not that bothered after that.
That's your choice Stonefly and all other Sawsnek supporters, but if Kernow were in the 7 nations, do you think the Sawsnek would support us when we played the others.
Yes I believe they would, firstly in my experience Cornish Rugby is held in high esteem throughout the rugby world and secondly as the English think we're English too. They'd probably see us as far preferable to the French.
They'd doubtless think of us as England 'B' or something, cheeky sods.
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