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The Armenian Genocide

lyskerrys Posted: 16.02.2006, 09:14



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QuoteCornwall as Gazza?


Ouch. C'mon strop, you can do better than that!
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xxxxxx Posted: 16.02.2006, 09:16



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LOL! I know...sorry! icon_biggrin
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TGG Posted: 16.02.2006, 11:47

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Post subject: RE: The Armenian Genocide Posted: Feb 16, 2006 - 02:24 AM

It's not genocide in english eyes and it's not genocide in Cornish eyes.


If we are an insignificant minority, and nobody shares my view of what is happening to the Cornish Nation, why are you getting so excited?

'STOP THE CORNISH GENOCIDE!'

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DywGenes Posted: 16.02.2006, 13:37



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Quote frenchie:
500,000 people is a very small minority out of 60,000,000. Out of those no more than a few 100 can speak the Cornish language fluently. The majority vote for the third largest english political party (one that never gets into government). They all watch the same TV, shop in the same supermarkets, eat the same food, share the same religion, speak the same language, support the same 'national' football team, read the same national newspapers, and buy english toilet paper to wipe their arses with.


Most of the Welsh and Scots vote for political parties which never get into power. They all watch the same TV as us, shop in the same supermarkets, eat the same food, share the same religion, speak the same language, read the same national newspapers, and buy english toilet paper to wipe their arses with. Does that mean we should call them English ?
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lyskerrys Posted: 16.02.2006, 14:21



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Quoteenglish toilet paper

Is that a euphemism for "Tory & Labour election manifestos"? icon_wink
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CornishIntifada Posted: 05.03.2006, 15:59



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Are you sure it was local people who sold their houses?? or was it upper class landowners?
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Fulub-le-Breton Posted: 05.03.2006, 18:01

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You act as if the only issue regarding Cornwall is the intellectual debate of the meaning of the word genocide.


Sorry frenchie for talking in a way you don't like; mental note to self "must not debate language and meaning because frenchie does not like it".

If you think the debate of the meaning of the word genocide is all that happens here then I would say cornishintitfada is not the only fixated obsessed individual here. If people want to talk let them do so; if you think the TGG site is flawed with the genocide theme then create another one.

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The only time TGG seem to have anything to say in this forum is when someone questions the word/use/interpretation of genocide.


Maybe that’s because TGG is busy in other Cornish affairs, putting some of the most important Cornish facts on the TGG website and having a life.

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No-one cares a flying fluck about 'Raphael Lemkin' on his path, and ALL his techniques, People care about jobs, housing, education etc. Don't you see that?


Oh I see the Cornish are low browed imbeciles and would never be interested in intellectual debate, right. To a degree you are right we are all concerned about the basics but to suggest thats all that we focus on is just patronising.

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comparing their situation with the death of thousands of Armenians


Something I have not done with this thread. Its a subject close to my heart because I spent 21 magical days travelling in Armenia and have been interested in this nation ever since.
In fact an author who inspired me with one of his travel books on the Armenians lives in the Duchy namely Philip Marsden.
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frenchie Posted: 07.03.2006, 00:40



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It's simply about what I said in my first ever comments on the subject. The majority of people do not relate the interpretation of the word genocide to what is going on in Cornwall. New visitors to this site with a new found interest in Kernow issues can easily be put off by such use of the word. It's nothing to do with what I like or dislike when it comes to debating interpretations. I don't have any problems with TGGs site either, it's linked from our TINC site.

It's only my opinion, but I don't see what's to be gained by speaking of a 'Cornish Genocide' except in a historical debate.


QuoteOh I see the Cornish are low browed imbeciles and would never be interested in intellectual debate, right.


I dont see how saying most people dont give a fluck about 'Raphael Lemkin' can be interpreted that way. But if that's how you see it, fair enough..


QuoteIf you think the debate of the meaning of the word genocide is all that happens here then I would say cornishintitfada is not the only fixated obsessed individual here. If people want to talk let them do so; if you think the TGG site is flawed with the genocide theme then create another one.


I dont think that at all - my only concern has always remained quite simple - you'll probably lose more support than you would gain if you relate the current situation in Cornwall to acts of genocide. I also don't see TGGs site as being flawed, his site is very in-depth and explores much of Cornwall's history. My only isue with TGG was the bold, bright red signature saying "stop the genocide" on the end of his every post in this forum.
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Fulub-le-Breton Posted: 07.03.2006, 12:49

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My only issue with TGG was the bold, bright red signature saying "stop the genocide" on the end of his every post in this forum.


Perhaps TGG does this because that's what he truly thinks and the destruction by denial of the Cornish people is something he feels personally.

As he has said, a fight for survival.
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Fulub-le-Breton Posted: 07.03.2006, 12:54

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There is now debate as to whether the Ukranian famine of 1932-33, caused by the deliberate policies of the government of the Soviet Union, should be called a genocide.

The Holodomor (Ukrainian: Голодомо&#1088 icon_wink
http://en.wikip...ian_Genocide



edited by: Fulub-le-Breton, Mar 15, 2007 - 06:22 PM

The Cornish Democrat
The Breton Connection
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frenchie Posted: 12.03.2006, 01:04



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QuoteThere is now debate as to whether the Ukranian famine of 1932-33, caused by the deliberate policies of the government of the Soviet Union, should be called a genocide.


Fair enough, it may be considered a genocide, and yes, it is interesting to view the concept of genocide as being more detailed than the commonly held viewpoint of the likes of the open slaughter seen in Hitler's Germany. But still, in modern day Cornwall, no-one is being placed in such conditions that starve them to death, nor is anyone being gassed to death. Whatever may be broadly re-interpreted as a form of genocide in Cornwall; it still remains an issue that those concerned can react against their situation and can stand up to, and make a protest about it. The balance of power is not extreme enough to justify a genocide situation and to me, those who speak in such terms, could be seen as being weak for seeing such conditions comparable to the historical events so rightly termed as a genocide.
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Fulub-le-Breton Posted: 12.03.2006, 13:09

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Quoteno-one is being placed in such conditions that starve them to death, nor is anyone being gassed to death


So frenchie you, single handedly have defined the word genocide for ever more. Wow i wish i had such confidence!
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TGG Posted: 12.03.2006, 13:52

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Posted: Mar 12, 2006 - 01:04 AM

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But still, in modern day Cornwall, no-one is being placed in such conditions that starve them to death, nor is anyone being gassed to death.


You obviously see no parallels between physical acts and psychological acts of, for example, cruelty, torture?

Similarly, you see no technical parallels between, for example, 'starve' [deprive] or 'gassed' [asphyxiated] and how such techniques could/would be applied in a way that you would find these processes to be acceptable?

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