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The Armenian Genocide

Fulub-le-Breton Posted: 13.02.2006, 19:51

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Dedicated to all extremist state nationalist and / or government supported hackers. Part 2

The Armenian Genocide (also known as the Armenian Holocaust or the Armenian Massacre) is a term which refers to the forced mass evacuation and related deaths of hundreds of thousands or over a million Armenians, during the government of the Young Turks from 1915 to 1917 in the Ottoman Empire. Several facts in connection with the event are a matter of ongoing dispute between parts of the international community and Turkey. Although it is generally agreed that events said to comprise what is termed the Armenian Genocide did occur, the Turkish government rejects that it was genocide, on the alleged basis that the deaths among the Armenians, were not a result of a state-sponsored plan of mass extermination, but from the result of inter-ethnic strife, disease and famine during the turmoil of World War I.

Despite this thesis, most Armenian, Western, and an increasing number of Turkish scholars believe that the massacres were a case of genocide. For example, most Western sources point to the sheer scale of the death toll. The event is also said to be the second-most studied case of genocide, and often draws comparison with the Holocaust. A growing list of countries, as discussed below, have officially recognized and accepted its authenticity as Genocide.

Turkey does not accept that the deaths of 1915 were the result of a state intention to eliminate the Armenian people. Turkey holds the position that the deaths were the result of the turmoils of World War I and that the Ottoman Empire fought against Russian backed Armenian militia.

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nxylas Posted: 14.02.2006, 03:36



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The event is also said to be the second-most studied case of genocide, and often draws comparison with the Holocaust.


Not least by Hitler himself. When someone warned that the Holocaust would go down in infamy, he is said to have replied "who now remembers the Armenians?".
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TGG Posted: 14.02.2006, 17:23

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It was this that set Raphael Lemkin on his path to defining genocide and ALL its techniques, and to making it an internation crime. Not, of course, the UN watered down definition supported by the self-protectionism of its Imperial State members.

See 'Definition of Genocide' thread

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xxxxxx Posted: 15.02.2006, 04:44



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Not, of course, the UN watered down definition supported by the self-protectionism of its Imperial State members.

The one that the rest of the world uses you mean, the accepted one?

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See 'Definition of Genocide' thread
Genocide now includes the selling off of Cornish homes by the Cornish to outsiders, if you read that thread. It's farsical.
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Fulub-le-Breton Posted: 15.02.2006, 17:24

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The one that the rest of the world uses you mean, the accepted one?


No; the one that the rest of the governments of the world have chosen and i don't trust a government (any) as far as i can throw it!
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TGG Posted: 15.02.2006, 20:49

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The one that the rest of the world uses you mean, the accepted one?


Quite a pathetic response really for such a serious subject! No brownie points for reciting what the self-protectionist Imperial Establishment has contrived for the gullible.

http://assets.cambridge.org//052178/2627/sample/0521782627ws.pdf

'STOP THE CORNISH GENOCIDE!'

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CornishIntifada Posted: 16.02.2006, 00:14



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The UK already commits crimes under the ICC. This has already been mentioned. I wonder when Strop is going to get sick of coming on here.
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frenchie Posted: 16.02.2006, 01:22



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The common understanding of any word is the meaning by which the majority of people interpret it. The Armenian genocide describes taking of life on a large scale. The Jewish genocide the same. To apply this term to anything that is going on in Cornwall is pathetic; it just shows up the people using this term to be nothing more than lost up their own intellectual arses. I've pointed this out from day one when I first visited this forum. Any newcomer with any degree of interest in the Cornish state of affairs is going to be put off by people using the word genocide in relation to what is happening here.

You act as if the only issue regarding Cornwall is the intellectual debate of the meaning of the word genocide. Can't you see any of this through the eyes of your average person? The only time TGG seem to have anything to say in this forum is when someone questions the word/use/interpretation of genocide.

One day Cornwall may become completely absorbed into the english system and the 'genocide crew' will still be waffling a load of shite about the word. You need to get F****G real about life, pull your heads out the dictionaries and spend more time down the pub talking to real people. Or, dare I say it, do something pro-active apart from quoting history and that ***** called Lemkin.
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frenchie Posted: 16.02.2006, 01:23



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QuoteI wonder when Strop is going to get sick of coming on here.


Wonder how many people are sick of you rearing your ignorant brain and talking a load of crap!
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xxxxxx Posted: 16.02.2006, 01:30



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This has already been mentioned. I wonder when Strop is going to get sick of coming on here.

He must be sick of my pointing out how dumb he is, and my shooting down of all his idiotic arguments in flames.

Poor old Cornishidiotdata, he's ever so lonely on his planet of one inhabitant.
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frenchie Posted: 16.02.2006, 01:36



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QuoteIt was this that set Raphael Lemkin on his path to defining genocide and ALL its techniques, and to making it an internation crime. Not, of course, the UN watered down definition supported by the self-protectionism of its Imperial State members.


No-one cares a flying fluck about 'Raphael Lemkin' on his path, and ALL his techniques, People care about jobs, housing, education etc. Don't you see that?


QuoteSee 'Definition of Genocide' thread


Nobody wants to! Nobody is that boring, pedantic or lost in the intellectual reasoning laid out in the long winded crap you write! Why don't you write something interesting that the majority of people will understand, or relate to? Or will that reduce you to being somewhere near 'the same as everyone else'?

Look at my bright red signature, it shouts to stop the genocide of Cornwall... you know, the mass slaughter of Cornish people that's been going on for years, look around you, there's bodies everywhere! HELP!

Oh no, sorry, its not the same sort of genocide that 99.9% of the population understand, it's just my own version - one that everyone has to understand otherwise I'll be a nobody... Really F**ks me off do this Genocide crew!
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frenchie Posted: 16.02.2006, 01:41



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"Intifada"

An uprising among Palestinian Arabs of the Gaza Strip and West Bank, beginning in late 1987 and continuing sporadically into the early 1990s, in protest against continued Israeli occupation of these territories.

"Cornishintifada"?

An uprising among (Cornish) Palestinian Arabs of the (Cornish) Gaza Strip and (Cornish) West Bank, beginning in late 1987 and continuing sporadically into the early (Cornish) 1990s, in protest against continued (non-Cornish) Israeli occupation of these territories.

What was he saying about Muslims?
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CornishIntifada Posted: 16.02.2006, 01:49



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Frenchie - turn your brain on.
Cornwall is OCCUPIED by the English and has been since about 1536. They make the rules. Now since the war they have FLOODED into Cornwall. A definition of war crime is replacing an occupied people's land with the occupiers own people - that is what is happening inn Cornwall, Scotland and Wales and happened in Northern Ireland.

Interestingyou can see some parallels -what is Cornwall except the Gaza of the indigenous Britons.
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frenchie Posted: 16.02.2006, 02:24



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500,000 people is a very small minority out of 60,000,000. Out of those no more than a few 100 can speak the Cornish language fluently. The majority vote for the third largest english political party (one that never gets into government). They all watch the same TV, shop in the same supermarkets, eat the same food, share the same religion, speak the same language, support the same 'national' football team, read the same national newspapers, and buy english toilet paper to wipe their arses with.

When drawing parallels you have to have a certain similarity between the two things you compare. The 'invasion' has never been a military one; it was Cornish home owners who sold their houses to the english; how many people have been killed in 'the takeover'? No-one got gassed to death! There aren't gunship helicopters patrolling overhead.

It's not genocide in english eyes and it's not genocide in Cornish eyes. Nor has there been an 'invasion' nor are there major casualties.

The most the Cornish are ever likely to get is some say in the running of local affairs. Why? Because the majority of this small minority don't actually mind the english way of life... The biggest 'crisis' going on is about housing and this is going on all over the country to lesser degrees and greater...

To try to get ordinary Cornish people to change their views about being Cornish in parallel to being english will not be achieved by comparing their situation with the death of thousands of Armenians or millions of Jews. Anyone who can't see that and still continues to shout 'genocide' shouldn't - in my mind - be playing any part in the future of Cornwall. You may be able to make 'intellectual parallels' but what will it achieve?
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xxxxxx Posted: 16.02.2006, 04:05



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Interestingyou can see some parallels -what is Cornwall except the Gaza of the indigenous Britons.



Cornwall as Gazza? When do the tears start?

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