I don't have my photo on my driving license, the address on it is well out of date but I wouldn't change it.
I don't believe in doctors either or getting ill, I think if you eat the right way and live as stress free life as poss there is no need for illness. so that's the medical card out the window.
A few moons ago we opted out of society, gave up my business, address, banks, sold everything all the 10,000 things if I couldn't get it in my camper van it when. They can't really touch you then , try getting a vehicle registered without an address, and we tried really hard, they shot themselves in the foot here because without an address no one can fine you either, this is how the gypsies play it. A great feeling of freedom. I just wish I could have continued but for now I'm back in the social structure of things until we make enough money for a top van with a build in satellite dish
I Know where you're coming from Sharon, but the world has changed so much, trust and integrity even honesty and good manners hardly exist, so therefore we have to compromise. Do you still carry national health cards [I've forgotten what they're called] when you see a doctor? well, put a photo on them and everyone had ID. I know it's simplistic, but that's the way I look at things, in a common sense way. As for seeing a doctor regulary, I think it's important, especially as we get older. Yes we may be fine, never ill etc, then one day you find you have something that may have been cured if you had it checked out earlier. So your quality of life goes out the window. If we look after our health we may not live longer, but the quality of life may be better.
I bet you opted back in though when you needed to buy things or needed healthcare or needed petrol for your camper van or needed to buy clothes or your Giro was paid.
Unless you go back to a hunter-gatherer existence and wear animal skins it's impossible to "opt out of society" because everything we currently use is due to society: camper vans, jeans, social money, the NHS, etc, etc, etc. You wouldn't stand a chance if you refused totally to have anything to do with "society".
Thank golowydh, silly me, I haven't thought about the old NHS cards for years, but remember carrying them to the doctors, years ago. We have medicare cards, which we use to claim our money back after doctors visits, we don't get the whole fee back, just what the government thinks is a fair charge. Most doctors charge extra, to keep their practices going. We can also be bulked billed, where we use our cards, and pay nothing. The doctor just claims the fee from the government.
Well I think I can say we came as close as we could to opting out. We didn't have any health care, we ran the van on 50% diesel 50% veg oil (yes it came from Lidl), I didn't buy any clothes, these came second-hand from my cousin, still do mostly, she earns loads of money and buy's hoards of designer clothes, then gets fed up with them or they go out of fashion. we...I'll say this one quietly, we read peoples charts we did eat what we could off the land, my mum bought us a book when we we're living on a narrowboat, called food for free, she's from the country so I was bought up knowing what I could eat in the countryside, still go foraging when ever I get the chance. Dandelions and nettles are very good for you, battered elderflowers are pretty good too. How many people do you know who could give up almost everything they own. I went from mixing with "the stars" to having a drink on a bench with a tramp. So now I have a broader picture on life. Your a hard man Lys
No, not in this country, it's too cold, we did consider making a bender and living in the woods, also there is a tepee village somewhere near Gweek, they are mostly self-sufficient, they even have hot showers, which they heat up from a big fire on top of a hill. Trouble is we aren't the sort of folk who can stay still, we realised that you have to have a base and chose Cornwall, but we want to travel more and see more life. We have recently been researching sea reality, dolphins etc and how you loose or concept of time, I can relate to this, we're building a website for someone who was the first person to sail the Atlantic in a catamaran....I like to view life as a big adventure
Hey I like the idea of a silicon chip implant. It would make learning new computer programmes easy if all you need to do was update your chip in you head and you have all the knowledge you need
In NZ we have photo ID drivers licences, and for the purposes of ID which is acceptable for access to international ports (as a worker etc) the Phot ID drivers licences are sufficient.
I just got our now passports (for visiting Cornwall) and it now has a digital ID card in the back. and photos on passport one is not allowed to smile because of the digital recognition software now being used to compare a persons face with the passport :|
What, none at all? Not even cough mixture? Paracetamol? No, ermm, "ladies products"?
Your van, the diesel and the veg oil are all products from a captialist society.
So you wore clothes that were the product of a capitalist society, and as designer clothes, probably made using cheap labour under unpleasant conditions.
Tricky to do farming while driving around in a van, how did you manage that then? A garden on the roof?
A book published thanks to society.
So you see, you weren't removed from society at all. You may not have mingled with the stars but you were still using lots of products of society.
What have elderflowers ever done to you?
Well, you may think that but you really don't know me at all.
Sharon , i think they may be taking the mickey , take no notice, maybe everyone is a wee bit envious that you have the courage of your convictions to breakaway from traditional roles and depend on identity cards etc. I am certain you are correct that you can do that sort of thing while you have your health.
On the flip side, in the social structure, we all need people to contribute to the great black hole run by goverments so they will 'take care of us' when we need asitance. If you are not contributing with Taxes etc, then the level of help that such non contributer receive, should be significantly less.
'Only two things certain in life, Death and Taxes'
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