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Post by Coady » Wed Dec 13, 2006 1:53 am

Shaz, no doubt. But if anyone seeks political change they have to appeal to 'the masses'...(or in our case the voters.) No 'magic short cuts' are likely to work.

Unless Nationalism moves to at least meet mainstream partway, its always going to be a minority interest in Cornwall.

Think of the strides Nationalism made in Scotland and Wales amongst plain people.
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Post by Coady » Wed Dec 13, 2006 2:18 am

What it says Shaz...

(..and it could be read as 'voters')
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Post by Frenchie » Wed Dec 13, 2006 2:22 am


This is the unfortunate truth as I see it. None of the major Nationalist groups has managed to engage ordinary everyday Cornish people as supporters in any number.



Say it backwards...

You're making polarities here. Your splitting groups of people, from individuals who are not part of those groups. Then you are suggesting that the active group should be doing additional work to 'engage' the inactive individuals who haven't bothered to support, join, create or imagine a group.

Politics of Moaning..

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Post by Coady » Wed Dec 13, 2006 2:45 am

Shaz, Frenchie.... shout and stamp your feet if you want.

There are roughly half a million people who live in Cornwall.

Political parties seek their support, and some get some of it.

What is the total membership of ALL the main Nationalist Groups?....go on, hazard a guess?

To make significant change, you might want to consider that many of that half million are NOT stupid, lazy or careless, and actually try to present your beliefs and passions in a manner that ENGAGES with the Cornish People.
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Post by Frenchie » Wed Dec 13, 2006 3:09 am


To make significant change, you might want to consider that many of that half million are NOT stupid, lazy or careless, and actually try to present your beliefs and passions in a manner that ENGAGES with the Cornish People.



You're doing it again..

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Post by Frenchie » Wed Dec 13, 2006 3:13 am


plain people ? that made me laugh, Coady what are plain people?



They get eaten last from the xmas 'human selection box'. Get dunked in tea well into the new year.

They never have a chocolate covering..

You know, plain people..

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Post by Coady » Wed Dec 13, 2006 11:25 am

Not prepared to address the issue, though, are you?

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Post by Frenchie » Fri Dec 15, 2006 10:34 pm


This is the unfortunate truth as I see it. None of the major Nationalist groups has managed to engage ordinary everyday Cornish people as supporters in any number.



So how did they get their group supporters together in the first place?

The nationalist groups (as you call them) are people of Cornwall who are actually trying to do something about changing Cornwall's situation.


I think this is because you all look inwards too much, and believe you should shape the people to your beliefs, when you should, perhaps, be tailoring your Nationalism to what the majority of people in Cornwall WANT. ]



The 'ordinary people of Cornwall' are not doing much at all by the looks of it, otherwise you wouldn't be calling them so..

You accuse the Nationalists as being too 'inward looking' because they are not engaging the 'ordinary people of Cornwall' to become supporters...

Because the nationalists are not 'tailoring' their own inner convictions to suit the needs of 'ordinary people of Cornwall' is not an excuse for those who live in Cornwall - indeed those who know of the injustices Cornwall has been dealt - to do nothing.

You are clearly pointing out the Apathy of the Cornish, and it's not the Nationalists we are talking about here..

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Post by Coady » Sat Dec 16, 2006 11:51 pm

Well,,,are the people of Cornwall apathetic, or just content with things as they are? It might well be that Nationalists are unrepresentative of the beliefs, feelings and aspirations of the people of Cornwall.
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Post by Frenchie » Sun Dec 17, 2006 12:01 am


It might well be that Nationalists are unrepresentative of the beliefs, feelings and aspirations of the people of Cornwall.



Yes, it might well be.

But while the 'people of Cornwall' as you call them, believe, feel and aspire to something that is "unrepresentative" from other 'people of Cornwall'; those Cornish that do aspire enough - to the point of taking on the authorities in the real world - ,show you that there are two groups in Cornwall. Those that do something and those that wait for someone to suggest they do something.

ideas become thoughts.. thoughts become initiatives.. initiatives become actions.. Or not.

Action leads to change...

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Post by Coady » Sun Dec 17, 2006 12:17 am

...."or not"
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