Campaign Kernow.

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Re: Campaign Kernow.

Postby carrek » Thu Jun 24, 2010 4:17 pm

GrahamHart wrote:No. Never have. I expect you to do all that :? Have you ever as much as looked the Campaign Kernow website FFS ???


Yes. But have you done any of that since the fund started? People can't pledge money if they don't know about it. And this website isn't exactly mass media.

GrahamHart wrote:don't tell me how to run a campaign you tight assed bitch.


Well someone should, your PR could do with some work.
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Re: Campaign Kernow.

Postby P_Trembath » Thu Jun 24, 2010 6:06 pm

Graham, is there any promotional material, posters, car stickers etc?
Some stuff to download would be a good idea, and would carry little or no cost to the campaign itself.
It would also help maintain momentum.
Everyone, Cornish or otherwise, has their own particular part to play. No part is too great or too small; no one is too old or too young to do something.
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Re: Campaign Kernow.

Postby shaz » Thu Jun 24, 2010 9:27 pm

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Re: Campaign Kernow.

Postby Kevrenor » Fri Jun 25, 2010 9:00 am



After listening to that interview I have written to Mr Hooper:

Dear Mr Hooper,

I have just been listening to an interview you gave with BBC Radio Cornwall in regard to previous rejection of a bid by a Cornish group to representation at the Commonwealth Games for The Duchy of Cornwall.

You described the bid as not acceptable as it is an English County.

There is interest around the world in this issue - my own organisation has just carried an article about the latest campaign in its Newsletter which goes out within Australia and internationally.

There is a considerable body of opinion that Cornwall is a Duchy and is not constitutionally a county of England. Just last year it's government administration became a unitary authority and the incorrect use of the word County was removed from its name.

In order to give some balance I just want to ask you what formal advice did the UK Government give the Commonwealth Games Federation at the time of the last campaign about the constitutional status of Cornwall?

Which body within the UK Government gave this advice?

You consistently claimed in the interview that Cornwall is a county of England. Have you sought recent advice on that matter?

Our members look forward to your reply so that it can be passed on in our next newsletter. Thanking in you anticipation.

Chris Dunkerley
Secretary,
Cornish Association of New South Wales"

I do not expect to get other than an acknowledgment but who knows? He sounds more like a Kiwi than English so maybe it is just ignorance, or he has his orders.
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Re: Campaign Kernow.

Postby Marhak » Fri Jun 25, 2010 9:11 am

It might be worth mentioning to him that the Royal Commission on the Constitution 1973 highlighted the dubious legality of 'county' status and recommended that Cornwall be referred to as a Duchy, and that recent legal opinion has defined Cornwall as a Crown Dependency, similar to Sark.
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Re: Campaign Kernow.

Postby saxonscum » Fri Jun 25, 2010 2:19 pm

Graham, very best of luck to you and thanks for your support of our team from 'the country next door'.

However, I have one small nagging doubt about Cornwall sending a team to the Commonwealth Games. The Commonwealth, after all, is the remnants of the British Empire under new branding, and British (or rather English, if you believe some posters) Imperialism is clearly anathema to some of the members of the forum.

My feeling is that Cornwall could be accused of double standards by taking part in an event which is at least slightly tainted by the shadow of the British Empire.

I'm not saying your idea isn't an excellent one, but perhaps a Cornish team in the Olympics might be a better bet? Or even an application to FIFA for Cornwall to enter the World Cup preliminary rounds. If the Faroe Islands can do it....

Best of luck again.
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Re: Campaign Kernow.

Postby GrahamHart » Sat Jun 26, 2010 2:49 am

Kevrenor wrote:Small personal pledge made.
CANSW Newsletter printed and ready to go out.
Chons da!


Thank you for your pledge and brilliant efforts Kevrenor. Thanks for yours as well Paddy. I'm trying to organise downloadable pledge forms and posters. There has been a few others who have donated, but not nearly enough, and I won't reveal them without their permission and I won't reveal the amount.

It has occurred to me that members may not wish to reveal their identity. I'm very happy to take their pledges by PM. Then if you forward me a cheque when required, I'll have no idea which member you are.

Another £30 pounds today. Please understand. I am not asking you to go into debt or break the bank, but it seems very sad that the pledges so far have been by so few. Just a small amount by you will give me much more encouragement to try even harder knowing you are behind me.

Am now off to set up a Twitter and facebook account....if I can work out how to do it. :roll:
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Re: Campaign Kernow.

Postby GrahamHart » Sat Jun 26, 2010 3:09 am

saxonscum wrote:Graham, very best of luck to you and thanks for your support of our team from 'the country next door'.

However, I have one small nagging doubt about Cornwall sending a team to the Commonwealth Games. The Commonwealth, after all, is the remnants of the British Empire under new branding, and British (or rather English, if you believe some posters) Imperialism is clearly anathema to some of the members of the forum.

My feeling is that Cornwall could be accused of double standards by taking part in an event which is at least slightly tainted by the shadow of the British Empire.

I'm not saying your idea isn't an excellent one, but perhaps a Cornish team in the Olympics might be a better bet? Or even an application to FIFA for Cornwall to enter the World Cup preliminary rounds. If the Faroe Islands can do it....

Best of luck again.

Thank you saxonscum.
Remnants of the British Empire of not, the games federation stand alone, and because of that they are sitting ducks.

A Cornish team cannot apply for the Olympics because we go as a GB team. In football , the CCFA are right up the FA backside and run by people who are of the English mindset. The same goes for the CRFU even though Rugby is our national game. Most rugby players are aware they are Cornish but reluctantly accept the status quo.

Football however is an entirely different matter. They, bar a tiny few consider themselves English which is why being anti World Cup is pointless. Being an ex player, I know of no one who doesn't support England unless they are Cornish nationalists. As for the the Faroe Islands.... they already have recognition.

Of course, recognition in the games would change all that and all sports would wish to compete in a Cornish national team bar only sports that compete only under the GB heading. What a mouth watering prospect that would be.
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Re: Campaign Kernow.

Postby Trevorpen » Sun Jun 27, 2010 12:00 am

What have been smokin' there is not such a thing as a Cornish National team! A county team yes, don't make yourself a laughing stock - you do not represent normal Cornish thinking!
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Re: Campaign Kernow.

Postby Marhak » Sun Jun 27, 2010 12:38 am

Er, Cornwall, silver medallists (rugby), 1908 Olympics.
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Re: Campaign Kernow.

Postby shaz » Sun Jun 27, 2010 12:23 pm

saxonscum "Graham, very best of luck to you and thanks for your support of our team from 'the country next door'."

Well said saxonscum :)

Even a couple of the councillors on Twitter are expressing support for "the country next door"

So Trevorpen what are you going to do when the English system tells you your not actually "English" when your "we" turns to "them" the bigger Nation from the country next door...
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Re: Campaign Kernow.

Postby GrahamHart » Sun Jul 04, 2010 7:42 pm

A big thank you to the tiny minority of forum members who pledged or donated. It's very much appreciated. ;) The rest can talk the talk, but sadly can't even assist in the smallest of ways to walk the walk. Perhaps that's why Cornwall is so under pressure. Too many weaklings. :oops: Oh well, onwards and upwards...
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Re: Campaign Kernow.

Postby Marhak » Mon Jul 05, 2010 8:48 am

Apathy is not only a British disease but now a Cornish one as well, perhaps by way of contamination processes. We seem to have lost the will, courage and spirit of 1497 and 1549, apart from a very few. I hope that I'm one of that few. I have made my pledge and, should my own circumstances improve, I will add to it.

Times are hard - we all know that - but, then, when weren't they hard in this particular part of the Celtic world? If I can make a pledge, you can make a pledge. It doesnlt have to be a fortune. From little acorns . . . Make Kernow's motto - Onen hag Oll - mean something again. Make the few become the many, then the All.

After all, something as simple as that - the commitment of us all - is the key to Kernow's future, and we all have our hand on that key. Now turn it.
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Re: Campaign Kernow.

Postby Stephen Richardson » Mon Jul 05, 2010 12:18 pm

I can't understand why someone wouldn't want to make a pledge to something that could make a big difference to Cornwall. Come on guys let's get behind the project even if you don't see eye to eye with Graham. If you pledge a small amount what do you have to lose? When the campaign goes forward there will be everything to gain and if it doesn't then you will have lost nothing.
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Re: Campaign Kernow.

Postby tean » Mon Jul 05, 2010 7:48 pm

Marhak wrote:Er, Cornwall, silver medallists (rugby), 1908 Olympics.


Er, wrong Marhak the 1908 Olympic rugby final was between Great Britain and Australia. It was the fact that Cornwall were the Champions of the English Counties that year that they were asked to represent Great Britain. They were not playing as Cornwall.
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