Royal Wedding - Kernow turns her back :

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Post by Kitto » Sun May 01, 2011 2:57 pm

Marhak wrote:Argue that one with Professor Norman Davies, author of "The Isles". He is an Englishman but knows his facts, unlike some I could mention.

Apparently, one of the titles bestowed upon Prince William by the Queen is "Earl of Carrickfergus". Jesus Christ, how provocative a move is that? It risks the entire Irish peace programme. If the republican Irish react to a slap in the face like that, as well they might, then the silly bloody woman only has herself to blame. She might just as well have called him "Lord Bloody Sunday".
Carrickfergus is in the United Kingdom, so I think it is a very apt title. William of Wales now also has titles from NI, England, and Scotland.

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Post by TeamKernow » Sun May 01, 2011 3:22 pm

And his dad has the missing one and only 'from' the :idea: Celtic Nation & Duchy Of Cornwall :idea: .
Of course who ends up with that one in the longer run depends on a few unknown eventualities...

A truly Ruritanian situation - if the UK was an African state we'd be laughing our heads off at all these
uniforms, passively acquired in-house 'by family appointment' medallions, ribbons and fantasy titles!


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The full and absurd (and not quite genealogically complete - ssshhhh) 'title'
of Charles Philip Arthur George Saxe Coburg Gotha etc etc etc:
His Royal Highness Prince Charles Philip Arthur George, Prince of Wales, KG, KT, GCB, OM, AK, QSO, PC, ADC, Earl of Chester, Duke of Cornwall, Duke of Rothesay, Earl of Carrick, Baron of Renfrew, Lord of the Isles and Prince and Great Steward of Scotland.
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Post by Marhak » Sun May 01, 2011 4:29 pm

Carrickfergus is also where William of Orange landed in 1690. The title has been extinct since 1883, and its resuscitation is a deliberate and breathtakingly arrogant slap in the face to Irish republicanism, and threatens to destabilise the whole Irish preace process. Another of his new titles, Earl of Strathearn, also extinct for a fair while, also make a deliberate statement to Scots devolutionists that the "Windsors" intend to hang onto the Union, no matter what. I'm amazed that no Press commentator has latched onto the significance of these titles.

As for Duke of Cambridge, this title was given to German monoglot George I. It was last given (as "Marquess of Cambridge") by Adolphus, Duke of Teck, in 1917 on the provision that he give up his German titles and took the surname "Cambridge". He was the brother of Queen Mary, consort of George V.

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Post by Marhak » Sun May 01, 2011 4:30 pm

The peace process won't do too well out of it, either. (Typos!!)

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Post by Kitto » Sun May 01, 2011 4:33 pm

Marhak wrote:The peace process won't do too well out of it, either. (Typos!!)

Oh don't be so reactionary. It won't inflame any tensions save for a few internet warriors! Anyway, you didn't answer my question about Norman Davies' The Isles!

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Post by TeamKernow » Sun May 01, 2011 4:50 pm

No doubt, in these democratic meritocratic non-feudal times (ho!ho!),
the people who live in those places were asked first...
Or have 'we' no manners?
Or are 'we' too insufficiently confident to put it to the democratic test?
Far easier just to rudely presume prerogatives and impose...

Talking of rudely imposed prerogatives
say :idea: 'Hello' :idea:
to the Duchy Of Cornwall's
new unelected 'High Sheriff',
Colonel Edward Bolitho:
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How was this post acquired?
By appointment of the Duke of Cornwall,
not the Queen
as happens over in England.

What do Ed/Ted/Edward's duties include?
'Acting as the Returning Officer in Parliamentary Elections
and attending high court judges sitting in local courts'.

And there we were naïvely thinking Kevin Lavery, CE of Cornwall Council, was
ultimately responsible for running 'elections' in Cornwall & Scilly and for which 'task'
he is paid the handsome moonlighting delegator's fee of circa £20-30,000 on top
of his somewhat generous circa £250,000 (incl superann) p.a. CC CE 'salary'...
How does Kevin find the time to do it all...?

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Post by Marhak » Sun May 01, 2011 6:34 pm

He doesn't, TK. He delegates to others who aren't being paid a fraction of his salary.

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Post by TeamKernow » Sun May 01, 2011 6:47 pm

Marhak wrote:He doesn't, TK. He delegates to others who aren't being paid a fraction of his salary.
TeamKernow wrote:for which 'task' he is paid the handsome moonlighting delegator's fee of circa £20-30,000 on top of his somewhat generous circa £250,000 (incl superann) p.a. CC CE 'salary'...
Bit of a Shagletstyley too-quick-slip-from-the-hip there, Marhak!

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Post by Marhak » Sun May 01, 2011 7:19 pm

Mea culpa. I missed the "delegator's". My excuse - I was cold, wet, miserable and waiting for the immersion to heat the tank when I posted that!

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Post by Cormorant » Sun May 01, 2011 7:21 pm

Marhak wrote:Carrickfergus is also where William of Orange landed in 1690. The title has been extinct since 1883, and its resuscitation is a deliberate and breathtakingly arrogant slap in the face to Irish republicanism, and threatens to destabilise the whole Irish preace process. Another of his new titles, Earl of Strathearn, also extinct for a fair while, also make a deliberate statement to Scots devolutionists that the "Windsors" intend to hang onto the Union, no matter what. I'm amazed that no Press commentator has latched onto the significance of these titles.

As for Duke of Cambridge, this title was given to German monoglot George I. It was last given (as "Marquess of Cambridge") by Adolphus, Duke of Teck, in 1917 on the provision that he give up his German titles and took the surname "Cambridge". He was the brother of Queen Mary, consort of George V.

Breathtaking in its historical content.

He is called William.

He wore the Irish Guards uniform at his wedding.

And the I.R.A. blew his Great-Uncle to bits.

There may be an an Irish Protestant theme here?

But, wait!

Aren't Irish Protestants also Celtic?

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Post by TeamKernow » Sun May 01, 2011 7:48 pm

Marhak wrote:Mea culpa. I missed the "delegator's". My excuse - I was cold, wet, miserable and waiting for the immersion to heat the tank when I posted that!
Sounds like you might benefit from a bit of pampering by a skivvy or three or four, Marhak, like they have up the road in this feudal Davetatorship with at least one full time on the ostrich feather fan and another to 'do your toothbrush' before you 'come out'...
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Perhaps his dukeness might let you have one or three 'man'servants for a week or three -
although it could be too terribly and awfully and enormously and untenably embarrassing
being waited hand-on-foot by grown men to assist in the completion
of the most simple tasks and formerly familiar bodily functions...

Then again, you could show those lightweight townies
and gloucestershireite and wiltshireite lapdogs what
it's like to ride a proper 'orse:


PS :idea: Our Kevin Still Speaks Highly Of SERCO :idea:

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Post by Marhak » Sun May 01, 2011 9:46 pm

That's a proper 'oss, but tez far better to be aboard the bugger when he's galloping down the beach. (PS - seen the 18-hander I've been riding recently?)

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Post by Marhak » Sun May 01, 2011 9:50 pm

Yes, Shaggy, Northern Irish protestants are Celtic but the matter runs deeper than that, as well you know, into religious/monarchist (inextricably linked) factionalism that was created by the English to begin with.

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Post by Cormorant » Mon May 02, 2011 11:02 am

Marhak wrote:Yes, Shaggy, Northern Irish protestants are Celtic but the matter runs deeper than that, as well you know, into religious/monarchist (inextricably linked) factionalism that was created by the English to begin with.
Does it really run deeper, Marhak?

Like my family in Scotland, who won't wear green?

Who wouldn't be seen dead having anything to to with the Celtic League?

That run deeper, Markhak?

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Post by TeamKernow » Mon May 02, 2011 11:26 am

Perhaps you'd care to explain whether or not, in your opinion,
it does or doesn't by way of sustained argument, Cormorant.

Your oneliners and seemingly moronic enquiries demanding
others do your thinking for you to which you then come back
with a facile one-liner or two with a silly grinning smiley stuck
on at the end merely to provoke is tedious in the extreme.

Flap your wings and fly a bit higher, please, Shaglet.

Maybe start getting off the ground with, say, a six line paragraph
of coherent, evidenced and logical (as near as you can manage) argument.

Then we might see something more interesting
than your usual squirty deposits:

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