Pleased to see it, and good for 'Visit Cornwall'

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Ludgvan
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Pleased to see it, and good for 'Visit Cornwall'

Post by Ludgvan » Thu Aug 02, 2012 11:20 pm

Some good news from the Kernow Calling site:

A message from Malcolm Bell, Head of Visit Cornwall:

Hi

I have been on leave last week plus the odd day and it has been very busy for the team as its our frantic period, so sorry for the delay in responding

We finalised the revised "about cornwall" section on vc.com on Tuesday and all references to county will be removed and an increased emphasis on cornish celtic heritage, industrial legacy and the cornish language etc. It should be all up on the site by the middle of next week.

in addition, I have briefed the marketing and communication guys that the term county should no longer be used and instead and the terms Cornwall, Cornish, Duchy and region will be used in all or comms and England references should be avoided and only used if we have to

Regards

Malcolm

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Post by Marhak » Fri Aug 03, 2012 9:54 am

Bloody hell! WHAT a result! Hopefully, the snowball will now start rolling. Well done, guys!

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Post by Marhak » Fri Aug 03, 2012 3:07 pm

I note Malcolm's closing remark, about the use of 'England', and infer from that that he anticipates political pressure. Never mind, that's to be expected. We'll take all the positives (and this is hugely positive) and build on them.

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Post by Marhak » Sat Aug 04, 2012 8:37 am

This'll give our Trev an attack of the vapours and have him stamping his feet.

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Post by zennorman2 » Sat Aug 04, 2012 11:58 am

I believe Mr Bell is that rare beast in a senior job in Cornwall. He is Cornish so he understands the place.

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Post by Carvath » Sun Aug 05, 2012 9:21 am

Good for Malcolm!

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Post by Ludgvan » Sun Aug 05, 2012 11:20 am

Although this is a positive step forward, it is somewhat 'coincidental' that its release should be at the same time as news of a survey to find out the impact of tourism on residents in Cornwall being undertaken by the Council.

The survey will begin on the 14th August.

http://www.businesscornwall.co.uk/news- ... sm-say-123

The often negative effect of tourism on Cornwall and those who live here is so often disregarded.

Paddy Trembath - your analysis of tourism in Cornwall has been excellent. Is there any way these writings can be easily accessed?


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Post by Marhak » Tue Aug 07, 2012 7:42 pm

Bloody hell! I've seen it all now! This story is has just been featured by BBC Spotlight, of all people. They featured Cornish and non-Cornish people, and they were all very supportive. The only voice of dissent they chose was a brainless erk on their own Facebook page who just made any anti- voice look stupid.

However, I understand that Laurence Reed was totally obnoxious about it yesterday.

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Post by Trevorpen » Tue Aug 07, 2012 8:22 pm

This is a great way of advertising Cornwall and full marks to 'Visit Cornwall'
I know of a few hotels whom advertise in this way, taking what is unique in Cornwall and promoting Cornwall as a destination different to the rest of the country.
We already have shaken off the old 'bucket and spade' image of Cornwall, with fine hotels, restaurants and major attractions such as The Eden Project ( incidentally Tim Smit has been promoting Cornwall in this fashion for a long time).
Malcolm Bell is quite correct to add that Cornwall is part of England when promoting overseas markets - as many of these markets promote England as one entity.

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Post by Kevrenor » Wed Aug 08, 2012 1:03 am

Trevorpen wrote:This is a great way of advertising Cornwall and full marks to 'Visit Cornwall'
Malcolm Bell is quite correct to add that Cornwall is part of England when promoting overseas markets - as many of these markets promote England as one entity.
Being in an overseas market and getting inundated with Visit BRITAIN material, that England is just a regional subset with London being far pre-eminent.

Cornwall loses out by its lack of differentiation .. hopefully this will now slowly right itself.

Malcolm Bell will say what he thinks he has to say for his masters.

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Post by Rosko » Wed Aug 08, 2012 5:53 am

Cornwall = Duchy
County eradicated as term used for Kernow
England thrown out as often as possible as term associated with Cornwall

TrevorPen, you must be suffering from early stages of shear heart attack!! Where did it go wrong for you, little old perv?!
How could you be so wrong, all along, so stupid, blind and ignorant?!
How could all those silly nationalists be so completely right?!
Have you read Angarrack's "Our Future is History" yet?
Read and learn facts, you moron, if you're even capable of digesting such material.

As Marhak says, what a result, and pressure finally getting through to the organisations that can really make a difference in little Englanders' perception of their holiday destination's real status.

Every little helps; well done Malcolm!!

Cornwall=nation next to England

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Post by Marhak » Wed Aug 08, 2012 10:01 am

Even the Royal Commission on the Constitution in the 70s highlighted in their report the very dubious legality of foisting adminstrative county status on Cornwall in 1889.

While Cornwall is marketed as a mere county of an adjoining land, just one among so many others, it will never prosper. Showing ourselves off as something very different (and much more factually correct) can only be constructive in just about every conceivable way. It's not as if this is new. Right up until the 1950s, before the mass in-migration started, Cornwall was promoted in this way: as the "Delectable Duchy". Even when Radio Cornwall started (then with a Cornish editor and largely Cornish staff), you heard "Duchy" and rarely "county". Chris Blount's breakfast programme was "Duchy Today". That all changed when the station suffered a Home Counties take-over, and people like Ted Gundry were removed for being "too Cornish".

I'm sure that Malcolm Bell will get it in the neck from some quarters for having the courage to accept Kernow Calling's challenge and taking the lead. I was astonished to see it dealt with so fairly and supportively by BBC Spotlight last night (of all people!). If he does - and I'm thinking of some "Uncle Tom" councillors as prime suspects - we need to be in there giving supportive messages (not abusive ones) for an initiative which can only do Cornwall good. After all, who does it hurt to call Cornwall by the title that was recommended by that same Royal Commission, and to minimise references to England? There is nothing negative about this welcome move. It is all very positive.

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Post by tean » Wed Aug 08, 2012 11:43 am

Just as a point of interest has anyone read the full text of Mr Bell's remarks as he also said -

quote/We would never deny we're a county and deny that we're actually part of England."/unquote.

Please don't shoot the messenger.

It seems he is hedging his bets a little so as not to upset the English who may be considering holidaying down here.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-cornwall-19163973

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Post by Carvath » Wed Aug 08, 2012 11:50 am

Cornwall is administered as a county of England but that does not mean it is correct or should be referred to as such: as detailed in the message previous by Marhak. Malcolm Bell is at least going in the right direction. The media will have to find a new vocabulary.

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