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Post by Nige999 » Sun Aug 13, 2006 10:17 pm

Where I spent a fair chunk of my childhood.

I have a question about said village and wonder if anyone can help.

I am a bit of a collector of antique maps and one shows Sithney as Synny.

This is a very old map (at least 300 years old) and is genuine, not a cheap fake.

However the engraver of this map was well known for copying the work of John Speed and adding little details and/or embellishments of his own to make his maps seem like originals.

So I am a bit suspicious of the use of Synny for Sithney. But saying that his usual changes were more conspicuous than a tiny little village.

Has anyone ever heard of, or seen, the use of Synny for Sithney ?

If I remember correctly (it was a long time ago) older people in the village used a similar pronunciation when I was a child.

But that just might have been the local dialect - I am no expert.

Anyone ?

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Post by Lyskerrys » Sun Aug 13, 2006 10:26 pm

Maybe the mapmaker had only ever heard the pronounciation "Synny" and so wrote it down that way. There's plenty of times mapmakers (OS) have got names wrong in Kernow and we've been stuck with the consequences because "if the OS says so it must be right". :-(

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Post by Nige999 » Mon Aug 14, 2006 3:37 pm

Could well be.

All - How should Sithney be pronounced ?

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Post by Coady » Mon Aug 14, 2006 3:44 pm

Like "SITH-nee" its pronounced pretty well as its spelled, with slight emphasis on the first syllable.
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Post by FlammNew » Mon Aug 14, 2006 3:49 pm

Sithney Fair however moved to where Goldsithney now is: "Goldsithney" came from Cornish "Goel Sithney" = Sithney Fair.

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Post by Coady » Mon Aug 14, 2006 4:11 pm

Goldsithney is one of the few Cornish towns that still have an annual 'feast', although now its called St Hilary Feast. Looks like a village that specialised in hosting other places traditions! Its even pronounced "GolSITHnee" which sounds very much like Flamm's explanation.

I THINK St Hilary Feast is held on the Monday following the Sunday closest to January 13th, but I'm not sure, havent been to it for a few years...drink driving laws etc. etc.
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Post by Hevva » Thu Sep 07, 2006 8:20 pm

Goldsithney "Goel Sithney" the old pronunciation used to be "Gol synny" according to the old folk when I was a kid (1950s)
I think Coady is mixing up St Hilary feast with Goldsithney Charter Fair held on the first Saturday in August.

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Post by Coady » Thu Sep 07, 2006 8:32 pm

Not really, two different things. St Hilary Feast is the Monday after the saints day. The Hunt have a meet in the village, and the pubs do a roaring trade all day, some local people practically open their houses to visitors all day. (or used to...)

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Post by Hevva » Thu Sep 07, 2006 8:43 pm

Graham you are right they are two quite different things. the pubs do not do as roaring a trade as they used to by a long way.
The Charter Fair has now moved to St Pirians Hall and playing field and not in the main street as it always used to be. Because of costs (closing the raod, insurance, etc.

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Post by KingMark » Thu Sep 07, 2006 10:43 pm

Until quite recently Sithney used to have a Treacle mine... in the Triangle by Merthyr Close.

It became a local landmark, so much so that a visiting paramedic was once given the instructions "from Parc-an-Ithan turn right at the treacle mine, then..."

"Sorry Sir, I thought you said 'Treacle Mine'!"

"Yep, thas right..."

Royal Cornwall was once held at Sithney I think...

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Post by Nige999 » Tue Sep 12, 2006 6:46 pm


Merthyr Close.



And thats where I used to live !

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Post by Nige999 » Tue Sep 12, 2006 6:47 pm


Goldsithney "Goel Sithney" the old pronunciation used to be "Gol synny" according to the old folk when I was a kid (1950s)



Interesting...............

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