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Post by kbcl1 » Fri Apr 29, 2011 6:14 pm

NEWS FROM THE CELTIC LEAGUE

IRELAND: SEC PROVIDE BRITISH ARMED FORCES WITH RECRUITS DATA

It has been revealed that the State Examinations Commission (SEC) in Ireland facilitates recruitment into the British armed forces by giving details of educational qualifications to the UK government.

The revelation comes after a journalist with the Irish language weekly `Gaelsceal' followed up claims by the Celtic League that the UK armed forces were supplied with data on both the educational and employment history of prospective applicants to the British armed forces who were Irish citizens.

See link:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/celtic_le ... ssage/3487

The Celtic League had suggested that such assistance by State bodies in facilitating recruitment by Irish citizens into foreign defence forces could breach Irish law. However the Data Commissioner in Ireland has indicated that this is not the case.

See link:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/celtic_le ... ssage/3640

Section 312 (a) of the Defence Act 1954 says:

"It shall not be lawful for any person -

to induce, procure or persuade any person in the State to accept or agree to accept any commission or engagement in any military, naval or air force maintained by the Government of any other State"

However, it seems that Irish government bodies can assist in the `procurement' of Irish nationals into the British armed forces.

The bizarre revelation begs the question: Is there any Country that Irish government bodies would refuse to supply information to or does this `cosy' arrangement on recruitment apply simply to the United Kingdom?

The text of the letter from the SEC to the Gaelsceal journalist is set out below:

"Dear

I refer to your recent email to the State Examinations Commission (SEC) in relation to the issue of examination results to the UK Armed Forces.

A request for examination results by a prospective employer such as the UK Armed Forces would be treated by the SEC in the same way as we treat all other requests for statements of results. The SEC will only release examination results on foot of a request directly from the candidate. To facilitate prospective employers and if the candidate requests it, we will post these results to the employer. It is important to stress that this is only done at the behest of the candidate. Sometimes candidates
will give a copy of their examination results to a prospective employer who in turn may ask the SEC to confirm that these are a true reflection of the candidate's achievements. In those circumstances, where the employer already has a copy of the results, the SEC will confirm/deny the validity of the information contained on the statement of results.

I hope this information is of assistance. If you have any queries please do not hesitate to contact me.

Kind regards,

Martina Mannion, Press Officer
State Examinations Commission
Cornamaddy
Athlone
Co Westmeath
(090) 6442778"

Related articles on Celtic News here:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/celtic_le ... ssage/3627
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/celtic_le ... ssage/3489
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/celtic_le ... ssage/3456

J B Moffatt (Mr)
Director of Information
Celtic League

29/04/11

The Celtic League has branches in the six Celtic Countries. It works
to promote cooperation between these countries and campaigns on a
broad range of political, cultural and environmental matters. It highlights
human rights abuse, monitors all military activity and focuses on
socio-economic issues.

TEL (UK)01624 877918 MOBILE (UK)07624 491609

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Re: IRELAND: SEC PROVIDE BRITISH ARMED FORCES WITH RECRUITS

Post by Kitto » Fri Apr 29, 2011 6:28 pm

What's your problem with the UK and Ireland having close links? Y'know, they are quite close historically and culturally.

Also, if Irish citizens volunteer to sign up to the UK Armed Forces, what's your problem? Do you want to set up some kind of authoritarian regime where everyone keeps strictly to their own culture? Hmmm...

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Re: IRELAND: SEC PROVIDE BRITISH ARMED FORCES WITH RECRUITS

Post by Marhak » Fri Apr 29, 2011 7:23 pm

If it's against the law, then it's against the law; and the extract from the Defence Act clearly shows that it is. Our "problem" is in seeing that law broken. Those who made it must abide by it.

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Re: IRELAND: SEC PROVIDE BRITISH ARMED FORCES WITH RECRUITS

Post by Kitto » Fri Apr 29, 2011 8:00 pm

Ireland has said it is not against the law and there are many Irishmen and women perfectly happy to serve in the RIR and other parts of the Armed Forces. This is just petty.

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