The Nazi Roots of the House of Windsor - for Cormorant

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The Nazi Roots of the House of Windsor - for Cormorant

Post by kbcl1 » Fri May 20, 2011 3:39 pm

One of the biggest public relations hoaxes ever perpetrated by the British Crown, is that King Edward VIII, who abdicated the throne in 1938, due to his support for the Nazis, was a ``black sheep,'' an aberration in an otherwise unblemished Windsor line. Nothing could be further from the truth. The British monarchy, and the City of London's leading Crown bankers, enthusiastically backed Hitler and the Nazis, bankrolled the Führer's election, and did everything possible to build the Nazi war machine, for Britain's planned geopolitical war between Germany and Russia.

Support for Nazi-style genocide has always been at the heart of House of Windsor policy, and long after the abdication of Edward VIII, the Merry Windsors maintained their direct Nazi links.

So, when Prince Philip, co-founder with Prince Bernhard of the Netherlands of the World Wildlife Fund (WWF), tells an interviewer that he hopes to be ``reincarnated as a deadly virus'' to help solve the ``population problem,'' he is just ``doin' what comes naturally'' for any scion of the Anglo-Dutch oligarchy .

To get beyond the soap opera stuff and truly understand the Windsors today, it is useful to start with Prince Philip. Not only was he trained in the Hitler Youth curriculum, but his German brothers-in-law, with whom he lived, all became high-ranking figures in the Nazi Party.

Before his family was forced into exile, Prince Philip had been in line of succession to the Greek throne, established after a British-run coup against the son of King Ludwig of Bavaria, who became King Otto I of the Hellenes. Having dispatched King Otto in 1862, London ran a talent search for a successor, which resulted in the selection of Prince William, the son of the designated heir and nephew to the Danish king, Crown Prince Christian. In 1862, Prince William of the Danes was installed as King George I of Greece, and married a granddaughter of Czar Nicholas I in 1866. Prince Philip is a grandson of Queen Victoria, and he is related to most of the current and former crowned heads of Europe, including seven czars.

The marriages of Prince Philip's sisters definitely strengthened the German aristocratic ties. During 1931-1932, Philip's four older sisters married as follows: Margarita to a Czech-Austrian prince named Gottfried von Hohenlohe-Langenburg, a great-grandson of England's Queen Victoria; Theodora to Berthold, the margrave of Baden; Cecilia to Georg Donatus, grand duke of Hesse-by-Rhine, also a great-grandson of Queen Victoria; and, Sophie to Prince Christoph of Hesse.

Three of Philip's brothers-in-law were part of a group of German aristocrats who were Anglophile and pro-Nazi at the same time, and who remain a subversive force in Germany to this day.
Enter Prince Bernhard
His Royal Highness Prince Bernhard, royal consort to Queen Juliana of the Netherlands and father of the current Queen Beatrix, co-founded and became the first head of the World Wildlife Fund (now the World Wide Fund for Nature) in October 1961. When the Lockheed scandal forced Prince Bernhard to resign from his most important public functions in 1971, he was replaced by Prince Philip. Prince Bernhard, like Prince Philip, whom he recruited to the eco-fascist cause, had strong roots in the Nazi movement.

In fact, the whole House of Orange did: Queen Wilhelmina, mother of the future Queen Juliana, married a right-wing playboy who begged for money for Hitler; Juliana married an SS man (Prince Bernhard); and, Queen Juliana's daughter Beatrix married a former member of Hitler Youth.

Prince Bernhard first became interested in the Nazis in 1934, during his last year of study at the University of Berlin. He was recruited by a member of the Nazi intelligence services, but first worked openly in the motorized SS. Bernhard went to Paris to work for the firm IG Farben, which pioneered Nazi Economics Minister Hjalmar Schacht's slave labor camp system by building concentration camps to convert coal into synthetic gasoline and rubber. Bernhard's role was to conduct espionage on behalf of the SS. According to the April 5, 1976 issue of Newsweek, this role, as part of a special SS intelligence unit in IG Farbenindustrie, had been revealed in testimony at the Nuremberg trials.

When Bernhard left the SS to marry the future Queen Juliana, he signed his letter of resignation to Adolf Hitler, ``Heil Hitler!'' William Hoffman writes in his book Queen Juliana:

``Tensions [over the marriage] were not cooled when ... Adolf Hitler forwarded his own congratulatory message. The newspaper Het Volk editorialized that `it would be better if the future Queen had found a consort in some democratic country rather than in the Third Reich.'|''

This is the man who recruited Prince Philip to eco-facism, but Prince Philip's Nazi roots had been laid much earlier.
Hitler Youth and Universal Fascism
Through the influence of his sister Theodora, young Philip was sent to the German school near Lake Constantine that had been founded by Berthold's father, Max von Baden, working through his longtime personal secretary, Kurt Hahn. During World War I, Prince Max von Baden had been chancellor, while the Oxford-trained Hahn first served as head of the Berlin Foreign Ministry's intelligence desk, then as special adviser to Prince Max in the Versailles Treaty negotiations. Von Baden and Hahn set up a school in a wing of Schloss Salem, employing a combination of monasticism and the Nazis' ``strength-through-joy'' system. At first a supporter of the Nazis, Hahn, who was part Jewish, soon got into trouble with the SS, and came to support the more centrist elements of the Nazi Party. What Hahn really had become is what Henry Kissinger's friend, Michael Ledeen has termed a ``universal fascist,'' in the sense of Vladimir Jabotinsky, Count Coudenhove-Kalergi, the Strasser brothers, and other fascists whom the hard-core Nazis would have no dealings with.

Although Hahn's powerful connections permitted him to escape the concentration camps, he was forced to leave the school he founded in Germany before Philip's arrival there, and established a new school in Scotland, called Gordonstoun. It would play a major role in rearing all the male children of Queen Elizabeth II and Philip. When Philip arrived at Hahn's school in Schloss Salem, it was in control of the Hitler Youth and the Nazi Party, and the curriculum had become Nazi ``race science.'' Hahn became an adviser to the Foreign Office in London, urging policies of appeasement based upon appeals to the ``centrist'' Nazis.
Philip's Relatives Work for the SS
The husband of Philip's sister Sophie, Prince Christoph, was embraced by the Nazis, who saw him as a channel to the appeasement faction in Britain epitomized by King Edward VIII. Joining the Nazi Party in 1933, by 1935 Prince Christoph was chief of the Forschungsamt (directorate of scientific research), a special intelligence operation run by Hermann Göring, and he was also Standartenführer (colonel) of the SS on Heinrich Himmler's personal staff. The Forschungsamt used electronic intelligence-gathering methods to police the Nazi Party, while working with the Gestapo against the Catholic Church, the Jews, and labor organizations. When rumors of homosexuality spread against Capt. Ernst Roehm of the Stormtroopers, Himmler turned to the Forschungsamt's eavesdroppers, and ordered the ``Night of the Long Knives'' as a result. The eldest of Prince Christoph and Sophie's children was named Karl Adolf, after Hitler. Later, Prince Philip would promote his education.

Prince Christoph's brother, Philip of Hesse, married a daughter of the King of Italy, and became the official liaison between the Nazi and Fascist regimes.

Four years after Prince Philip left Schloss Salem to attend Gordonstoun Academy in Scotland, on Nov. 16, 1937, Philip learned that his sister Cecilia and her husband Georg Donatus, hereditary grand duke of Hesse-by-Rhine, had crashed in one of Göring's Junker aircraft on a trip to London for Georg's brother's wedding. According to the British magazine Private Eye, the funeral became a gathering point for leading Nazis and their appeasers. Prince Philip himself developed secretive ties with King Edward VIII, continuing after Edward was deposed in 1938.

In fact, one of the central figures in the 1930s Nazi-British back-channel was Philip's uncle and sponsor, Lord Louis Mountbatten (originally, Battenberg, a branch of the House of Hesse). Until he was forced to abdicate, King Edward VIII enjoyed the full backing of ``Dickie'' Mountbatten. Through much of World War II, secret channels of communication were maintained between the British royal family and their pro-Hitler cousins in Germany, by Lord Mountbatten, through his sister Louise, who was crown princess of pro-Nazi Sweden. Louise was Prince Philip's aunt.

Although Buckingham Palace's rumour mill has tried to depict this wartime collaboration with the enemy as mere family correspondence, the channel apparently included messages from Prince Philip's secret ally, the Duke of Windsor (the former Edward VIII). On Nov. 20, 1995, the Washington Times reported, based on recently discovered Portuguese Secret Service files first published in the London Observer, that the Duke of Windsor had been in close collaboration with the Nazis in Spain and Portugal to foment a revolution in wartime Britain, that would topple the Churchill government, depose his brother King George VI, and allow him to regain the throne, with Queen Wallis [Simpson, the American divorcée, for whom he abdicated the throne] at his side. Portuguese surveillance revealed that Walter Schellenberg, head of Gestapo counterintelligence, was one point of contact in this plot. After Schellenberg met with the Spanish ambassador to Portugal, Nicolás Franco, brother of fascist Gen. Francisco Franco, Ambassador Franco told a Portuguese diplomat: ``The Duke of Windsor, free from the responsibilities of the war, in disagreement with English politicians, could be the man to put at the head of the Empire.''

Whatever correspondence was hidden in Sophie and Prince Christoph's Kronberg Castle, King George VI, in June 1945, felt compelled to dispatch the former MI-5 officer turned ``Surveyor of the King's Pictures,'' Anthony Blunt, to gather up the correspondence. Queen Elizabeth II reportedly insisted that there be no interrogation of Blunt about his secret trip to the castle. Otherwise, it is notable that starting with an exchange between King George VI and President Eisenhower, the House of Windsor has been desperate to keep classified those documents from Kronberg Castle that fell into American Army hands, long beyond the normal length of time. Clearly, Prince Philip's patron Lord Dickie Mountbatten, Mountbatten's sister Crown Princess Louise, and Philip's brother-in-law Prince Christoph of Hesse were not just exchanging Christmas greetings.


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Re: The Nazi Roots of the House of Windsor - for Cormorant

Post by kbcl1 » Fri May 20, 2011 3:42 pm

And more here:

http://www.fpp.co.uk/online/05/01/Royal_Nazis.html


Should one continue ?

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Post by Cormorant » Fri May 20, 2011 3:58 pm

Oh please!

Nazi roots?

Through the daughters of Queen Victoria is there a royal family in Europe that is not related to the Windsors?

Your Breton friends were willing allies of the Nazis.

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Post by P_Trembath » Fri May 20, 2011 7:44 pm

Cormorant wrote:Your Breton friends were willing allies of the Nazis.
War and politics make strange bedfellows.

Were not the Finns also allies of the Nazis?

Whether they were "willing" or not is as debatable as it is for the Bretons. It was a time when the saying "The enemy of my enemy is my friend" held true. Or do you wish to condemn Churchill a Communist, on the grounds that he was willing to make us Russian allies. The Americans, also, must be regarded as Communist sympathisers.

You claim on another thread:-
Coromerant wrote:The fact that your Breton friends were Nazi collaborators during the War is a fact.
Is, when looked at with regard to the whole picture, totally meaningless. The Nazis were the enemy of their enemy, the French.

Just as many Irish Nationalists joined the British Army in 1914, they did so in the belief that Britain would honour their promise regarding Home Rule, many Bretons hoped that Germany would give them greater independence from France. The Irish Nationalists did not become "British" patriots, nor did the Bretons become Nazi sympathisers. Neither would see their hopes fulfilled. It is also to be noted, that many "ordinary" French men and women collaborated with the Nazis, as did many of the nationals of other countries that Germany occupied during the war, and there are as many reasons for that collaboration as there were collaborators, from political ideology, to just wanting to stay alive, from wanting to make life as easy as possible for their fellow people to wanting to fill their own pockets.

There were also many British/English Nazi sympathisers, even outright Nazis in all but name, from ordinary working class people, to politicians, and even, as shown above, members of the "upper" classes, and Royalty. Are you prepared to consider them in the same light, as it appears you consider some of the founding members of the Celtic League, based on their Nazi sympathies, connections, and collaboration?

The world is not as Black and White as your comments would seem you wish to portray.
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Post by Cormorant » Fri May 20, 2011 8:19 pm

Were not the Finns also allies of the Nazis?

Not in any history i have read.

But perhaps there is a alternative history that you have access to?

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Post by Cormorant » Fri May 20, 2011 8:22 pm

War and politics make strange bedfellows.

in the case of the Nazis, I think war,politics and genocide makes uncomfortable reading for the founders of the Celtic League?

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Post by kbcl1 » Fri May 20, 2011 8:31 pm

Oh dear Cormorant, your ignorance is utterly astounding:

Although Finland was never de jure member of Axis powers, as it never signed the Tripartite Pact, it was a companion of Germany from the beginning of Operation Barbarossa 1941 to separate peace with the Soviet Union in 1944.

http://www.kolumbus.fi/rastas/nyky/reasons_ww2.html

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1715905/posts

wherein:

"Finnish Nazi SS troops formed the vanguard and spearheaded the German Wehrmacht assault against the Stalingrad and Caucasus regions in 1942 and advanced to the Grozny oil fields in Chechnya. This was the farthest Nazi advance into the Soviet Union by the Axis, spearheaded by Finnish Nazi Waffen SS volunteers. It is important to remember that the Finnish government of Risto Ryti sent the Finnish Nazi SS volunteers. There was government action on the part of Finland. Ryti should have been prosecuted for war crimes and for genocide. But he never was. Finland’s Nazi past and role in the Holocaust was blurred and obscured by Finnish propaganda."

And of Britain and the English:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2009 ... ook-expose

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/th ... 28497.html

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/th ... 28501.html

Now we can begin to understand your lack of knowledge of the land of Cornwall.

Rest assured, the Celtic League are not at all uncomfortable about its founders. Perhaps you should be about your standards of education and your esteemed Royal Family ?

Yes, let's discuss genocide, beginning here:

http://www.irishdemocrat.co.uk/features/irish-famines/

"A million and a half men, women and children were carefully and peacefully slain by the English Government. They died of hunger in the midst of abundance, which their own hands created…"

Introducing the concept of Cornish Genocide:

http://www.kernowtgg.co.uk/genpages.html

Should I continue with genocide and the English ?

Chris
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Post by Cormorant » Fri May 20, 2011 8:39 pm

There were many different nationalities that joined the Nazis, including some English.

More "shifting the goal-posts" to avoid the fact that founders of the Celtic League were Nazis.

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Post by kbcl1 » Fri May 20, 2011 8:40 pm

Oh dear Cormorant, your ignorance is utterly astounding:

Although Finland was never de jure member of Axis powers, as it never signed the Tripartite Pact, it was a companion of Germany from the beginning of Operation Barbarossa 1941 to separate peace with the Soviet Union in 1944.

http://www.kolumbus.fi/rastas/nyky/reasons_ww2.html

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1715905/posts

wherein:

"Finnish Nazi SS troops formed the vanguard and spearheaded the German Wehrmacht assault against the Stalingrad and Caucasus regions in 1942 and advanced to the Grozny oil fields in Chechnya. This was the farthest Nazi advance into the Soviet Union by the Axis, spearheaded by Finnish Nazi Waffen SS volunteers. It is important to remember that the Finnish government of Risto Ryti sent the Finnish Nazi SS volunteers. There was government action on the part of Finland. Ryti should have been prosecuted for war crimes and for genocide. But he never was. Finland’s Nazi past and role in the Holocaust was blurred and obscured by Finnish propaganda."

And of Britain and the English:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2009 ... ook-expose

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/th ... 28497.html

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/th ... 28501.html

Now we can begin to understand your lack of knowledge of the land of Cornwall.

Rest assured, the Celtic League are not at all uncomfortable about its founders. Perhaps you should be about your standards of education and your esteemed Royal Family ?

Yes, let's discuss genocide, beginning here:

http://www.irishdemocrat.co.uk/features/irish-famines/

"A million and a half men, women and children were carefully and peacefully slain by the English Government. They died of hunger in the midst of abundance, which their own hands created…"

Introducing the concept of Cornish Genocide:

http://www.kernowtgg.co.uk/genpages.html

Should I continue with genocide and the English ?

Chris

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Post by P_Trembath » Fri May 20, 2011 10:33 pm

Cormorant wrote:Were not the Finns also allies of the Nazis?

Not in any history i have read.
There are 2 responses that spring to mind following such a post:-

1/ Did they "do" history in "The Dandy"?

2/ Perhaps you should read more.
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Post by Anselm » Fri May 20, 2011 10:38 pm

All interesting stuff. Point made, I think.
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Post by Cormorant » Fri May 20, 2011 10:49 pm

Oh God!

That is me put in my place. :lol:

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Post by Cormorant » Fri May 20, 2011 10:53 pm

Oh dear Cormorant, your ignorance is utterly astounding:

Although Finland was never de jure member of Axis powers, as it never signed the Tripartite Pact, it was a companion of Germany from the beginning of Operation Barbarossa 1941 to separate peace with the Soviet Union in 1944.


I love that phrase...

De jure

In this case it means..

Finland fought the Nazis and the Soviets...

Which has nothing to do with Breton Nazis.

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Post by Cormorant » Fri May 20, 2011 11:01 pm

Why did the the founders of the Celtic League end up in Ireland?

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Re: The Nazi Roots of the House of Windsor - for Cormorant

Post by kbcl1 » Sat May 21, 2011 3:52 pm

Cormorant wrote:Why did the the founders of the Celtic League end up in Ireland?
Buy the book and read the whole story for yourself !

Or obtain and read:

'History of Brittany - The Breton Point Of View' by Jean-Pierre Le Mat ISBN 2-952144-8-0 which contains answers to all the points which appear to interest you.

Chris

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