Maps of Cornwall

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Post by Fulub-le-Breton » Mon Jun 19, 2006 11:30 pm

We could make a fantastic site on the history of the "County" of Cornwall but it would be a long way from the reality, and so what use is it to anybody except those who want to promote the idea that Cornwall is and always has been just another English county.

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Post by K » Sun Jun 25, 2006 1:49 pm



Local GVA
Inner London still highest contributor
Top 5 and Bottom 5 GVA per head of population, indexed to UK=100, 2003

Inner London contributed £113bn to the UK economy (measured as gross value added (GVA)) in 2003 (this is at current basic prices and before taking account of inflation). At £38,800 Inner London also had the highest GVA per head of population, more than double the UK average of £16,100.

Highlands and Islands had the smallest share of GVA at £4bn. Cornwall & Isles of Scilly (£10,400) West Wales & the Valleys (£10,600) and the Highlands & Islands (£11,400) had the lowest GVA per head of population in 2003.

http://www.statistics.gov.uk/CCI/nugget ... 2&Rank=176

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Post by Coady » Sun Jul 23, 2006 8:27 am

Great maps!..Takes me back to my schooldays, always found maps fascinating.

I see on the news today that, following a referendum, the little nation of Montenegro has split amicably from Serbia. That's interesting.

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Post by FlammNew » Sun Jul 23, 2006 8:43 am

Thanks 1549, been after that for ages! It clearly shows Cornubia written in red the same as Anglia - and, for some reason, "Snowedon" in Wales...

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Post by Fulub-le-Breton » Sun Jul 23, 2006 2:47 pm

A 'regional' map: http://www.rise-sw.co.uk/index.php?module=RegionalMap



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Post by Abednego » Sun Jul 23, 2006 9:29 pm

The Hereford map also names in red Lindsey and Northumbria, neither of which was a separate part of England at that time.

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Post by FlammNew » Mon Jul 24, 2006 1:46 pm

Either way, it shows that there was something special about those places otherwise they wouldn't have been marked out in this way.

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Post by Fulub-le-Breton » Mon Jul 24, 2006 8:35 pm

The map of all the FUEN members in Europe: http://www.fuen.org/pdfs/20060614MapPM60.pdf



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Post by Abednego » Mon Jul 24, 2006 11:25 pm


it shows that there was something special about those places otherwise they wouldn't have been marked out in this way



There was nothing special about Lindsey and Northumbria at this time; they were firmly integral parts of England. This makes deductions about red-named Cornwall difficult.

This leads me to a general observation about some of the maps put here. The naming of parts seems eccentric and with no discernible principle. Which part gets named on the map seems arbitrary - as Snowdon.

On the 1595 map of Orbelius both Cornwall and Kent are marked.

It really is not possible to say that because an area is named on a map it means that at that time the area was separate from England.

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Post by Coady » Mon Jul 24, 2006 11:46 pm

...But, Abednego, there is a mountain of evidence just on this forum that Cornwall was, and IS a separate entity in some ways, just the legal records indicate that.. and the irrefutable Duchy status....

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Post by Abednego » Tue Jul 25, 2006 10:39 am

Graham, I was writing only about some of the historic medieval and Tudor (not more modern) maps and the difficulty of making firm deductions from them about the status of all the named areas on the basis of their being named in similar print. I think Snowdon, Lindsey, Northumbria, and Kent illustrate the difficulty.

My own view on the present status of Cornwall is that in 2006 it is a county of England.

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Post by Coady » Tue Jul 25, 2006 11:07 am

Fair comment. We have been 'absorbed' into being a County I think, whether people wanted it or not..I suspect the majority at the time it happened didn't give much opposition, could be there were percieved benefits...

I take on board what our more Nationalist friends say though, about the various legal decisions in the past, some quite recent, that bow to Cornwall having a different status as a Duchy, and various historical factors that many counties do not.

Despite the bitching and slanging that happens on here, I find it generally informative and thought provoking.

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Post by FlammNew » Tue Jul 25, 2006 2:27 pm

Thanks for that, 1549, disgusting isn't it? And people wonder why we don't want loads of building and an excessive population in Cornwall.... (shakes head sadly)

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