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Post by Fulub-le-Breton » Tue Jul 25, 2006 5:40 pm

Coady and Abednego, remember you have to take the maps in the context of all the historic quotes and references that clearly mark Cornwall out; its Duchy status today and the fact that it would have been a region with a totally different language.

You will also note that Cornubia or some other form is on all the maps when kent and snowdon etc are not.

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Post by Coady » Tue Jul 25, 2006 7:25 pm

Fulub, thanks, but I was already firmly of the belief that Cornwall was, for a significant time, a separate 'unit', having been taught it "at Granny's knee"

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Post by Marhak » Sat Aug 12, 2006 3:09 pm

Just thought I'd mention this. If anyone wants a (free) modern map of anywhere in Cornwall, from 1:10,000 scale up to 1: 1000, enter Cornish Key Mapping into Google. Brilliant service.

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Post by Fulub-le-Breton » Fri Sep 29, 2006 5:57 pm

Maps from English nationalists.

Wessex: http://www.englandism.com/images/mapwessexlg.jpg

Counties pre Heath: http://www.englandism.com/images/mapcountieslg.jpg

Funny the Isle of Man and the Duchy of Cornwall are included.



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Post by Coady » Sat Sep 30, 2006 3:57 am

Cornwall has long been thought of by many as a county of England. King Charles 1 clearly thought so when he wrote a letter copied to all the churches and chapels in Cornwall during the English Civil War in the mid 1600s.
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Post by Penwithian_in_California » Sat Sep 30, 2006 5:50 am



Maps from English nationalists.

Wessex: http://www.englandism.com/images/mapwessexlg.jpg

Counties pre Heath: http://www.englandism.com/images/mapcountieslg.jpg

Funny the Isle of Man and the Duchy of Cornwall are included.




Perhaps they thought that none of us 'simple folk' with our 'traditional ways' would notice......? Or perhaps they thought that they'd starved our economy so badly, and brought us to our economic kness in such a way that we wouldn't care? Beggin' yer pardon kind sir, but as us 'simple folk' know only too well, there's 20,000 that know the reason why...............!

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Post by CJenkin » Sat Sep 30, 2006 9:25 am



Cornwall has long been thought of by many as a county of England. King Charles 1 clearly thought so when he wrote a letter copied to all the churches and chapels in Cornwall during the English Civil War in the mid 1600s.



But funnily enough it was the Duke that Cornish forces swore allegiance to. Caxton produced a state sponsored map of Cornwall as a 'County' in the late 1500s and Carew described Cornwall as a County in early 1600s before that Cornwall clearly has much higher status amongst the followers of the monarch. Cornish language speakers (judging from the plays) saw it very differently. With the decline of the language and influence of Stannary institutions, Cornwall became more 'county'-ised in the view of our centralised country. Read the 'West Britons' by Mark Stoyle to get a good idea of Cornish identity and views at this time.

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Post by Fulub-le-Breton » Mon Jan 29, 2007 6:45 pm

Well there you go a new map of the foreshore of the Duchy: http://www.duchyofcornwall.org/aroundtheduchy.htm

Seems to be alot of "Cornish" foreshore owned by the Duke!



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Post by Fulub-le-Breton » Tue Feb 13, 2007 10:57 pm

How anoying that none of the old links work on C24 anymore its really a bit disheartening.

Anyway this site has stacks of old maps:http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com ... index.html


Here is one my Ortelius in 1667 called 'Ingliterra' that includes Cornwall and Wales. Both Wales and Cornwall contain 'Wallis"http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com ... a_1667.htm

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Post by Fulub-le-Breton » Fri Feb 16, 2007 1:12 pm

And here are loads of maps of Kernow some showing Cornwall as a Duchy next to Devonshire: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com ... s/corn.htm

Worth a look.





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Post by Fulub-le-Breton » Fri Mar 02, 2007 9:17 pm

Hope this works: http://cartweb.geography.ua.edu:9001/St ... -dhtml.xsl


Devonshire seems to have fallen of the map, but it dosen't suprise me, even today continental map makers often mark the peninsula with Cornwall.



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Post by Angofbew » Fri Mar 02, 2007 10:05 pm


Coady said:
Cornwall has long been thought of by many as a county of England. King Charles 1 clearly thought so when he wrote a letter copied to all the churches and chapels in Cornwall during the English Civil War in the mid 1600s.



Graham, I think that you will find that the meaning of the word County was different then. It seems the meaning of the word County has changed over the Centuries. So Mate I do not think that this posting really has a relevance to the actual situation.

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Post by Angofbew » Fri Mar 02, 2007 10:09 pm

Ooops sorry. Glad to see you back by the way Graham.

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