Holyer an Gof, 2010

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Re: Holyer an Gof, 2010

Post by Marhak » Mon Aug 30, 2010 8:18 pm

Probably is. That's for them to sort out, as my decision was made long ago and my bardic robes are rags and mulch at United Downs. Their list still has me as "resigned", though. Of course, I still have the right to call myself a Bard as other senior members than those whose conduct caused me to resign saw some worth in my voluntary efforts, which had not been inconsiderable. And it annoys the latter group as well, if I'm to be honest.

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Re: Holyer an Gof, 2010

Post by Evertype » Mon Aug 30, 2010 10:52 pm

Anselm wrote:Ye-e-e-e-s ...
The point is that it's not entirely clear whether or not it's possible, even having offered a resignation and having this acknowledged, whether it's possible to cease to be a member. Bit of a grey area.
It's possible to stop paying one's dues, I suppose. But a bard created on foot of accomplishments is a bard.

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Re: Holyer an Gof, 2010

Post by Anselm » Tue Aug 31, 2010 7:06 am

That's not too far off. As I said, interesting ...
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Re: Holyer an Gof, 2010

Post by Marhak » Tue Aug 31, 2010 7:23 am

Bard and barred, I suppose.

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Re: Holyer an Gof, 2010

Post by Evertype » Tue Aug 31, 2010 10:16 am

The bored barred bard bared his burred beard to the bird.

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Re: Holyer an Gof, 2010

Post by Marhak » Tue Aug 31, 2010 11:00 am

Only when beered.

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Re: Holyer an Gof, 2010

Post by Karesk » Tue Aug 31, 2010 11:03 am

Oh. Does that mean after the song I sang in the pub last night that after all the landlord wasn't conferring on me the honour of Bard for Life?

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Re: Holyer an Gof, 2010

Post by Marhak » Tue Aug 31, 2010 12:39 pm

'Fraid not. (What was the song? Eskimo Nell? After a few pints I can still remember every verse of that - yet more evidence of a misspent youth).

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Re: Holyer an Gof, 2010

Post by factotum » Tue Aug 31, 2010 11:35 pm

Now there's an idea for a new competition to put a bit of life into the Gorsedh. It is after all quite good from a metrical POV, with effective use of internal rhyme. Until relatively recent times, stuff like this could never be printed, and so formed the only contempory corpus of purely oral verse.

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Re: Holyer an Gof, 2010

Post by factotum » Tue Aug 31, 2010 11:36 pm

... and Michael could publish translations into all six Celtic languages, 'twould probably sell better than Alice ...

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Re: Holyer an Gof, 2010

Post by Marhak » Wed Sep 01, 2010 12:12 am

Can you just imagine the stuffed robes of the Gorsedd judging "Ynuit Nell"?

("But I don't understand what it is that's bending in the middle like an old bow fiddle? Look, wake up old Gwas Gaga there and see if he knows"). The mental picture of puzzlement, then emerging horror and indignant outrage on those venerable visages has had me falling about for the last ten minutes!

High Commendation: Hunros an Ynjynnor. Commendation: Gorhel da yw henwys Venus.

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Re: Holyer an Gof, 2010

Post by factotum » Wed Sep 01, 2010 2:26 am

Unlike your good self, I'm afraid I don't know this seminal work all through, although quite a few lines are so memorable that once heard, never forgotten. However could one forget And though she grinned, it put the wind, up the other 39 ?

Well I'll probably regret this, but to start the ball rolling (as you might say), I'll lead off with the Prologue from the version I know :


Pan vydhydh henwas : Ha'th tiwgell heb haz
Ha'th kalgh treylyz glas, devri
Pan na wra benen vrav : Ev dhe sevel a'y sav
Ottomma hwedhel rygdhi ...


The other two works you mention, covering engineering and shipping, are if anything even more closely connected to Cornish culture. So that only leaves the question of what to call the prize :? :roll: :|

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Re: Holyer an Gof, 2010

Post by Marhak » Wed Sep 01, 2010 9:13 am

That's actually very good, Keith. Sadly my poetic translation skills aren't nearly up to what you and Tim produce, so can't rise (if that's the word) to the challenge. Naming the prize is tempting, though.

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Re: Holyer an Gof, 2010

Post by factotum » Wed Sep 01, 2010 11:42 am

While we're on this genre, and the idea of improbable Gorsedh competitions, the silver medal for interceltic intercourse would have to go to Peder Gwyrghes warn Ugens.

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Re: Holyer an Gof, 2010

Post by Anselm » Sat Sep 04, 2010 9:28 am

'Gorghel Da Gwener', martesen?
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'With regret I feel that unless you have a serious change of heart your presence at the Mennaye on Cornish Pirates match days is no longer desired.'
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