Gwask an Orlewen

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Re: Gwask an Orlewen

Post by GanO » Thu Oct 28, 2010 6:46 pm

Ny a wayt dyllo 2 lyver noweth kens pen an seythen nessa. Lyvrow a whethlow hengovek dasleverys gans fleghes yns-y, a vya gwyw rak dyscoryon/fleghes cresradhek aga Hernewek.

Ha ny ow kewsel adro dhe'n ger noweth 'comyx', ty a wor martesen bos dyffrans yn Sawsnek ynter 'comics' ha 'comix'. Styr arbennek 'comix' yu neppyth kepar ha 'comics warbyn usadow po yn-dan-dhor yu dyllys gans wask vyghan'.

Whansek en-vy cafos an keth styr yn Kernewek magata gans 'comyx'.
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Dyller yn Kernewek Gwyr
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"An Gwyr a'gas delyrf." Jow.8:32
"Dyllen dampnys kyn fen!"

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Re: Gwask an Orlewen

Post by GanO » Sat Nov 13, 2010 7:33 pm

Res o dhyn strechya an deth dyllo ambosys nep pymthek nos pella, awos bos moy a ober dhe wul es o ragwelys. Mes an dheu lyver yu parys wosteweth. Agan towl yu aga mora orth Kesculylyans Kernewek MAGA a dhegensew ogas dhe dheweth an mys-ma. Otommo dheugh pyth yu scryfys adro dhedha y'gan gwerthva Wy:

*** DYLLANSOW ARBENNEK MYS DU ***
2 lyver rak dyscoryon yowynk/cresradhek a vyth dyllys orth Kescusylyans Kernewek MAGA, 27 Du 2010l yn Lost £ydhyel. Y a yl bos prenys dyworth stalla Spyrys a Gernow.

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We've had to delay the promised publication day by a further fortnight, as there was more work to do than was foreseen. But the the two books are ready at last. Our aim is to launch them at the forthcoming MAGA Cornish Language Conference near the end of this month. Here's what's written about them in our online shop:

*** SPECIAL PUBLICATIONS, NOV 2010 ***
2 books for young/intermediate learners will be published at the MAGA Cornish Language Conference, 27 Nov 2010 in Lostwithiel. The two of them will be available on the Spyrys a Gernow stall.
Gwask an Orlewen
Dyller yn Kernewek Gwyr
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"An Gwyr a'gas delyrf." Jow.8:32
"Dyllen dampnys kyn fen!"

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Re: Gwask an Orlewen

Post by Marhak » Sat Nov 13, 2010 8:23 pm

And these do not need Stephen Fry, Blue Bird or Scarlet O'Hara to endorse them. Well done again, GanO!

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Re: Gwask an Orlewen

Post by pietercharles » Sat Nov 13, 2010 10:27 pm

And these do not need Stephen Fry, Blue Bird or Scarlet O'Hara to endorse them.
Does anybody have a clue what this is referring to?
What is "Marhak" on about?
Some negative, begrudging dig at somebody or some organisation he doesn't agree with, no doubt.

Oh! It's this he's on about:

Dyllans Nowydh
Henhwedhlow

Ottomma lyver a henhwedhlow kernewek, nebes koth, nebes nowydh, derivys yn gis hwarthus dres eghenn gans artydh, skrifer ha den a Gernow, Stevyn Colgan.
Keynskrifys gans Stephen Fry, an lyver ma a dheriv an hwedhlow gwir a-dro dhe’n Vorvoren a Senar, Jan Tregagel, Men-an-Tol ha lies moy.
Plesour yw redya an rakkow ha delit yw an lies delinyans liwek aga honan.
Diwyethek yw an lyver hag yma vershyons kernewek ha sowsnek an eyl a-dal y gila a-dreus an folennow. Rakhenna
ha kernewegoryon ha sowsnegoryon a vydh dynyes ganso.
Nyns yw hemma lyver saw rag tus ow tyski Kernewek, kyn fydh a vern dhedha yn arbennik heb mar, mes onan a wra
tenna pubonan a gar rakka da ha didhanus po a omdhidheur gans an wonisogeth ha’n ertaj a Gernow.
Y hwra dhis minhwerthin, ha mewghys yw henna!
Ro splann vydh rag agas teylu ha’gas kowetha, ny vern mar kodhons kewsel Kernewek.
Pris an lyver yw £14 (£13 rag eseli an Kowethas) ha lytherdoll ha fardellans, dhiworth Jan Edmondson – anjanva@phonecoop.coop

Gwrys yn ta arta, A Gowethas an Yeth Kernewek!

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Re: Gwask an Orlewen

Post by pietercharles » Sat Nov 13, 2010 10:31 pm

And these do not need Stephen Fry, Blue Bird or Scarlet O'Hara to endorse them.
Does anybody have a clue what this is referring to?
What is "Marhak" on about?
Some negative, begrudging dig at somebody or some organisation he doesn't agree with, no doubt.

Oh! It's this he's on about:

A New Publication
Henhwedhlow (Legends)

Here is a book of Cornish legends, some old, some new, told in an hilariously funny way by artist, writer and Cornishman Stevyn Colgan.
Endorsed by Stephen Fry, this book tells the real stories behind The Mermaid of Zennor, Jan Tregeagle, the Men-an-Tol and many more.
The stories are a pleasure to read and the many colour illustrations are a delight in themselves.
The book is bilingual with Cornish and English versions facing each other across the pages so it will appeal to English-speakers and Cornish-speakers alike.
This is not just a book for Cornish language learners, although it will of course be of particular interest to them, but one for anybody who likes a good, amusing story or has an interest in Cornish culture and heritage.
Guaranteed to make you smile!
It will make a wonderful present for family and friends, whether they speak Cornish or not.
The book costs £14 (£13 for Kowethas members) plus postage and packing, from Jan Edmondson –
anjanva@phonecoop.coop

Well done again, Kowethas an Yeth Kernewek!

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Re: Gwask an Orlewen

Post by pietercharles » Sat Nov 13, 2010 10:46 pm

I found a picture of the cover of the book (see previous post) on the MAGA website here:

http://www.magakernow.org.uk/default.aspx?page=455

How many Cornish icons can you spot?

Bryntin!! Wicked!!

No wonder Stephen Fry endorsed it!

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Re: Gwask an Orlewen

Post by arthur1 » Sat Nov 13, 2010 11:08 pm

At least the stories in the Kowethas book are Cornish, unlike the American Popeye and Felix the cat, that those others are publishing in an orthography that no-one now uses, I bet you if it was the other way around and the Kowethas was publishing Popey, Marhak would be complaining because Popeye was not Cornish !

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Re: Gwask an Orlewen

Post by GanO » Sat Nov 13, 2010 11:19 pm

Surely Stephen Fry, excellent chap thought he is, does not speak Cornish — nor even Kemmynn, for that matter.

If indeed he is neither Kernewegor nor Kennywegor (neither fish nor foul, so to speak) then the KKowethas seems to believe that it's worthwhile having an endorsement of a book by someone who can't read it.

What a curious delusion!
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Re: Gwask an Orlewen

Post by Marhak » Sat Nov 13, 2010 11:31 pm

Yes, you bloody well do, "Pieter" - you've seen the Henwhedhlow" thread, just as the rest of us have. Why the Cowethas have to have an Englishman who doesn't know the first thing about Kernow endorse one of their publications, only they know.

Yet another pseudonym, Reeves? (arthur1). Tiresome bastard.

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Re: Gwask an Orlewen

Post by Marhak » Sat Nov 13, 2010 11:33 pm

After the claims, I must have a good look - let's see if it really does the authentic stories behind the legends, or just gives the "English" Heritage style versions. If it does, you'll read it here, along with why that's so.

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Re: Gwask an Orlewen

Post by pietercharles » Sat Nov 13, 2010 11:37 pm

GanOw whined:
If indeed he is neither Kernewegor nor Kennywegor (neither fish nor foul, so to speak) then the KKowethas seems to believe that it's worthwhile having an endorsement of a book by someone who can't read it.
What a negative, begrudging naysayer this GanOw is!

Poor GanOw clearly missed the bit that says the book is bilingual!

Stephen Fry will doubtless have read it in English. And I'd warrant that Stephen Fry is a very good judge of a good story, and that's very likely to be why he endorsed it.

People might be best advised to ignore all this spiteful negativity, and buy the book themselves to see whether they agree with Stephen Fry...or Marhak and Ganow!

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Re: Gwask an Orlewen

Post by Marhak » Sat Nov 13, 2010 11:43 pm

You hollow sod - you had already posted on that thread so knew damn well what I was referring to. And repeated it here. Cretin.

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Re: Gwask an Orlewen

Post by pietercharles » Sat Nov 13, 2010 11:45 pm

Marhak whined:
Why the Cowethas have to have an Englishman who doesn't know the first thing about Kernow endorse one of their publications, only they know.
What a begrudging, negative, naysayer Marhak is!

So Stephen Fry's nationality is some kind of issue, huh?

So Stephen Fry doesn't know the first thing about Kernow, huh?

You're a disgrace, Marhak.

Let the rest of us just celebrate the fact that someone as well-known, well-liked and well-respected as Stephen Fry not only knows about Cornish legends, but knows about the Cornish language too, and is prepared to endorse a book which can and will bring awareness of the legends and the language to a wider reading public.

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Re: Gwask an Orlewen

Post by pietercharles » Sat Nov 13, 2010 11:53 pm

Marhak got his facts wrong:
You hollow sod - you had already posted on that thread so knew damn well what I was referring to. And repeated it here. Cretin.
That's not true. That's simply not true.

Try doing some research before making accusations, Marhak.
Check the times of the postings. I haven't. But I don't need to because I know what you say is not true because I know that I didn't see 'that thread' until after I'd posted here.
Not that it has any relevance to your begrudging, negative, naysaying in any case.

Check the times of the postings, Marhak.

Cretin?

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Re: Gwask an Orlewen

Post by marig » Sun Nov 14, 2010 12:19 am

Eddie you idiot the book is bi-lingual you know like it is English and Cornish. ? still better than the American Popeye and Felix the cat eh? in an orthography that no-one now uses.

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